From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:07:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080319180721.GB5296@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803191422.02064.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 02:22:00PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, 19 of March 2008, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:22:29AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
> > >
> > > Introduce 'struct pm_ops' representing a set of suspend and
> > > hibernation operations for bus types, device classes and device
> > > types.
> >
> > Ok, I must have missed the thread describing why we need to do this, so,
> > why do we need to do this? What is this going to buy us in the end
> > after everything is changed?
>
> There were many threads related to that.
>
> To summarize, the first purpose is to separate suspend (aka s2ram and standby)
> callbacks from hibernation callbacks in such a way that the new callbacks won't
> take arguments and the purpose of each of them will be clearly specified. This
> has been requested multiple times by many people, including Linus himself,
> and the reason is that within the current scheme if ->resume() is called, for
> example, it's difficult to say why it's been called (ie. is it a resume from RAM or
> from hibernation or a suspend/hibernation failure etc.?).
>
> The second purpose is to make the suspend/hibernation callbacks more flexible
> so that device drivers can handle more than they can within the current scheme.
> For example, some drivers may need to prevent new children of the device from
> being registered before their ->suspend() callbacks are executed or they may
> want to carry out some operations requiring the availability of some other
> devices, not directly bound via the parent-child relationship, in order to prepare
> for the execution of ->suspend(), etc.
>
> Ultimately, we'd like to stop using the freezing of tasks for suspend and
> therefore the drivers' suspend/hibernation code will have to take care of
> the handling of the user space during suspend/hibernation which would be
> difficult within the current scheme, without the ->prepare() and ->complete()
> callbacks.
Ok, thanks. You might want to include this in the patch itself (hint,
hint, hint...)
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-19 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200803170020.55473.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-03-16 23:22 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-16 23:24 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-16 23:25 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI " Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200803170024.23451.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-03-18 10:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform " Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200803170022.30345.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-03-18 10:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks Pavel Machek
2008-03-19 0:53 ` Greg KH
2008-03-19 9:15 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19 13:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 18:07 ` Greg KH [this message]
[not found] ` <200803170025.16149.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-03-18 10:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type Pavel Machek
2008-03-19 0:55 ` Greg KH
2008-03-19 13:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 18:06 ` Greg KH
[not found] <20080318100106.GA10830@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-03-18 15:10 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks Alan Stern
2008-03-18 23:54 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-19 1:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-19 2:44 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-19 3:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-19 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 3:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] <1205984008.26869.408.camel@pasglop>
2008-03-20 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-20 18:26 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0803201037590.9468-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2008-03-20 22:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0803201412210.22752-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2008-03-20 22:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] <1206052477.8420.26.camel@pasglop>
2008-03-20 22:57 ` Alan Stern
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