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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, "Leisner,
	Martin" <Martin.Leisner@xerox.com>
Subject: Re: syncing the disks when entering sleep
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:52:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100131085210.GH2238@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001272146.43660.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Wed 2010-01-27 21:46:43, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 January 2010, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > 
> > > > Per-system property, which should better be
> > > > per-program-that-requires-suspend. You request suspend without syncing
> > > > (you want it quick, battery is 90%), then the battery runs low, and
> > > > system daeomn requests s2ram, not realizing that someone disabled sync
> > > > from under him.
> > > 
> > > I really prefer a per-system setting.  The program that wants to sync anyway
> > > can easily do that by itself.
> > 
> > Yes, but existing apps do not know they have to sync. You are
> > essentially adding "break back compatibility" system wide option, when
> > better alternative exists... See above for concrete example where it
> > may hurt.
> 
> I don't get what the problem is, really.
> 
> There's _nothing_ here that breaks the existing behavior.  If the user doesn't
> set the switch, everything works as usual.  If he does, breaking the "back
> compatibility" is _his_ problem.

So... you give them option to break back compatibility then blame it
on them.... Yes, we could do it, but it is not good.

And better alternative exists, where you make the option per-suspend
so it does not have chance to break compatibility later.
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-31  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-22 15:59 syncing the disks when entering sleep Leisner, Martin
2010-01-22 20:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 21:31   ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-01-22 21:33     ` Leisner, Martin
2010-01-22 21:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 21:40         ` Leisner, Martin
2010-01-22 21:55           ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-01-22 22:06             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-01-22 21:35     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-26 13:59   ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-26 18:17     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-26 14:51       ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-27  0:51         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-27  6:45           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-27  7:29             ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-01-27 20:50             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-28  7:26               ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-28 10:43                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-05  6:38                   ` document open(/dev/snapshot) sideeffects -- was " Pavel Machek
     [not found]                   ` <20100405063852.GA1924@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-04-23 18:28                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <201004232028.56005.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-04-24  5:42                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-27  9:55           ` Pavel Machek
2010-01-27 20:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-31  8:52               ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2010-01-31 12:33                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-01 10:49                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-01 17:13                     ` Leisner, Martin
2010-02-01 21:09                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-02  4:13                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-02-10  8:13                           ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-10 10:34                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-10 10:38                               ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-10 10:58                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-10 11:02                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2010-02-10 18:42                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-15 20:28                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2010-02-16  6:38                                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-10 13:31                               ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-10 19:19                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-10 21:17                                   ` Leisner, Martin
2010-02-11 14:49                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-11 15:00                                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-11 17:28                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-02-11 20:17                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-02-10 20:58                               ` Leisner, Martin
2010-02-01 20:55                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-02-01 21:07                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-02-01 22:03                         ` Nigel Cunningham

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