From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 09/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops writer
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:03:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201003302303.12758.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BB1508E.9030103@crca.org.au>
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On 30/03/10 09:09, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday 29 March 2010, Jiri Slaby wrote:
...
> Okay. So the read or write terminology is from userspace's perspective,
> right?
Yes.
> Perhaps that's part of what I've found confusing about the kernel side of things.
>
> > [Note that snapshot_[read|write]_next() belong to the memory management
> > part of the hibernation subsystem and that's exactly why they are in
> > snapshot.c.]
> >
> > Now, compression can happen in two places: while the image is created
> > or after it has been created (current behavior). In the latter case, the image
> > pages need not be compressed in place, they may be compressed after being
> > returned by snapshot_read_next(), in a temporary buffer (that's now s2disk
> > does that). So you can arrange things like this:
> >
> > create image
> > repeat:
> > - snapshot_read_next() -> buffer
> > - if buffer is full, compress it (possibly encrypt it) and write the result to
> > the storage
> >
> > This way you'd just avoid all of the complications and I fail to see any
> > drawbacks.
> >
> > Now, an attractive thing would be to compress data while creating the image
> > and that may be done in the following way:
> >
> > have a buffer ready
> > repeat:
> > - copy image pages to the buffer (instead of copying them directly into the
> > image storage space)
> > - if buffer is full, compress it and copy the result to the image storage
> > space, page by page.
>
> A few points that might be worth considering:
>
> Wouldn't compressing the image while creating it rather than while
> writing increase the overall time taken to hibernate (since the time
> taken can't then be combined with the time for writing the image)?
It would, but that's attractive anyway, because the image could be larger than
1/2 of memory this way without using the LRU pages as temporary storage
space (which I admit I'm reluctant to do).
> Wouldn't it also increase the memory requirements?
Not really, or just a little bit (the size of the buffer). I'm talking about
the image that's created atomically after we've frozen devices.
Rafael
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2010-03-23 16:17 [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 02/15] PM / Hibernate: snapshot cleanup Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 03/15] PM / Hibernate: separate block_io Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 04/15] PM / Hibernate: move the first_sector out of swsusp_write Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 05/15] PM / Hibernate: group swap ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 06/15] PM / Hibernate: swap, remove swap_map_handle usages Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 07/15] PM / Hibernate: add sws_modules_ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 08/15] PM / Hibernate: add user module_ops Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252307.15232.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-26 9:43 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 09/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops writer Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 10/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops reader Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 11/15] PM / Hibernate: add chunk i/o support Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 12/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_read_next Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 13/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_write_next Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 14/15] PM / Hibernate: dealign swsusp_info Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 16:17 ` [RFC 15/15] PM / Hibernate: move non-swap code to snapshot.c Jiri Slaby
2010-03-23 21:51 ` [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-23 22:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-2-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-24 20:29 ` [RFC 02/15] PM / Hibernate: snapshot cleanup Pavel Machek
2010-03-24 22:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 5:29 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-3-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-24 20:30 ` [RFC 03/15] PM / Hibernate: separate block_io Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100324203021.GE5798@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-24 21:22 ` Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4BAA829F.7060207@gmail.com>
2010-03-24 22:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <4BAA98FC.9040302@crca.org.au>
2010-03-25 2:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <4BAACC0A.2040009@crca.org.au>
2010-03-25 20:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252112.25204.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-25 20:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <4BABC3D1.1050104@crca.org.au>
2010-03-25 20:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252133.50206.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-25 20:36 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-29 13:30 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-4-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-24 20:31 ` [RFC 04/15] PM / Hibernate: move the first_sector out of swsusp_write Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100324203125.GF5798@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-25 21:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-6-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-24 20:33 ` [RFC 06/15] PM / Hibernate: swap, remove swap_map_handle usages Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100324203329.GG5798@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-24 21:29 ` Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4BAA842A.6060906@gmail.com>
2010-03-25 21:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-7-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-24 20:36 ` [RFC 07/15] PM / Hibernate: add sws_modules_ops Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100324203634.GH5798@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-24 21:31 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-25 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-9-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-24 20:42 ` [RFC 09/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops writer Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100324204259.GA6423@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-24 21:40 ` Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4BAA86E8.5090108@gmail.com>
2010-03-25 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-25 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252314.33256.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-26 9:34 ` Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4BAC7FC3.50405@gmail.com>
2010-03-26 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-27 7:02 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <201003262304.32118.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-29 15:33 ` Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4BB0C840.7030802@gmail.com>
2010-03-29 22:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-30 1:14 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-30 21:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2010-03-31 2:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 14:47 ` Pavel Machek
2010-03-31 21:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 20:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 21:06 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-31 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-04 23:08 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-04-04 23:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 21:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-30 8:59 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-30 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-31 14:41 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-03-31 20:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-04-21 21:22 ` Jiri Slaby
2010-04-22 3:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-24 22:13 ` [RFC 01/15] FS: libfs, implement simple_write_to_buffer Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-10-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 5:30 ` what the patches do Re: [RFC 10/15] PM / Hibernate: user, implement user_ops reader Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100325053003.GB12935@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-25 5:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <4BAAF7DA.30506@crca.org.au>
2010-03-25 6:12 ` Nigel Cunningham
2010-03-25 20:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252114.36605.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-25 20:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <4BABC5B6.2070301@crca.org.au>
2010-03-25 20:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252129.10224.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-25 20:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <4BABC926.8060203@crca.org.au>
2010-03-25 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 21:26 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100325212656.GD22902@elf.ucw.cz>
2010-03-25 21:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <4BABDA59.8070107@crca.org.au>
2010-04-02 6:36 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20100402063644.GA14941@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
2010-04-02 17:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-03-25 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-5-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 21:28 ` [RFC 05/15] PM / Hibernate: group swap ops Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-11-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 22:38 ` [RFC 11/15] PM / Hibernate: add chunk i/o support Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <201003252338.48513.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-03-26 9:09 ` Jiri Slaby
[not found] ` <4BAC79B4.4040200@gmail.com>
2010-03-26 10:02 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-12-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 22:44 ` [RFC 12/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_read_next Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-13-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 22:46 ` [RFC 13/15] PM / Hibernate: split snapshot_write_next Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-14-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 22:46 ` [RFC 14/15] PM / Hibernate: dealign swsusp_info Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1269361063-3341-15-git-send-email-jslaby@suse.cz>
2010-03-25 22:50 ` [RFC 15/15] PM / Hibernate: move non-swap code to snapshot.c Rafael J. Wysocki
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