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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Trilok Soni <tsoni@codeaurora.org>,
	samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com,
	Linus WALLEIJ <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Naveen Kumar GADDIPATI <naveen.gaddipati@stericsson.com>,
	"linux-pm@lists.osdl.org" <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jayeeta BANDYOPADHYAY <jayeeta.banerjee@stericsson.com>,
	ext Sundar R IYER <sundar.iyer@stericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 11:26:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101006182647.GA5794@core.coreip.homeip.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1010061417410.2047-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 02:19:03PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> 
> > > > I think last time Rafael mentioned that runtime PM did not allow for
> > > > forcing power state from userspace but I wonder if it would be possible
> > > > for userspace to signal and "accelerate" the idle state for a device and
> > > > then standard runtime PM framework would kick in...
> > > 
> > > Yes; drivers can implement their runtime power policy any way they
> > > want.  For example, a driver could create a sysfs attribute file which
> > > userspace could use to ask for changes in the power state.
> > > 
> > > The real question is whether the driver is platform-specific.  If it is
> > > then fine, it can do whatever it wants.  If it isn't then it should
> > > try to avoid doing things that are tied to a specific platform.
> > >
> > 
> > No, I really think it is wrong. This what leads us to the situation we
> > are in at the moment. Every device [re]implements  its own little knobs
> > to do power management. Accelerometers export their (often tailored to a
> > specific platform) attributes in sysfs in nonstandard way. And so on,
> > and so forth.
> > 
> > Here I'd like to see these (PM) hooks done on device core level, i.e.
> > the knobs should be unified and live in /sys/devices/.../deviceX/power/
> 
> I haven't followed this thread in detail.  What sort of knobs are you 
> talking about?  That is, what needs to be done?  Maybe the PM core 
> already provides these features.
> 

Mobile folks wish to power down some devices (most often input -
touchscreen, keypad) under certain circumstances to save power.
So far they were doing that by adding "disable" hook to individual
drivers and while I did allow that in for some devices I feel that we
need more standardised solution, preferably one that could re-use
existing PM hooks in drivers.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-06 18:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <33A307AF30D7BF4F811B1568FE7A9B180460D32FE2@EXDCVYMBSTM006.EQ1STM.local>
2010-10-05 17:41 ` [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06  8:32   ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06  8:56     ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06  9:48       ` Onkalo Samu
2010-10-06 11:41         ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06 11:58           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06 15:43           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 16:19             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-06 17:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:19                 ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 18:26                   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2010-10-06 18:51                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:08                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-13  7:11         ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-10-13 17:35           ` Ferenc Wagner
2010-10-13 19:20             ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek

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