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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Ferenc Wagner <wferi@niif.hu>
Cc: Onkalo Samu <samu.p.onkalo@nokia.com>,
	ext Sundar R IYER <sundar.iyer@stericsson.com>,
	Linus WALLEIJ <linus.walleij@stericsson.com>,
	Naveen Kumar GADDIPATI <naveen.gaddipati@stericsson.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"linux-pm@lists.osdl.org" <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jayeeta BANDYOPADHYAY <jayeeta.banerjee@stericsson.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:20:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101013192059.GA24465@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tykqc7wq.fsf@tac.ki.iif.hu>

Hi!

On Wed 2010-10-13 19:35:49, Ferenc Wagner wrote:
> Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> writes:
> 
> >> For mobile devices it is not acceptable to filter events away at some
> >> upper SW layer depending on the system state. The HW which generates
> >> those events may not generate events at all to allow longer CPU sleep
> >> periods.

Actually, I question this, too.

Obviously, touchscreen needs to be turned off, but how common are
accidental button presses?

> >> In ideal world it would be nice to control device states based on for
> >> example user count. However, there are several listeners for input
> >> devices and it is hard or impossible to have them all to follow overall
> >> state transition (screen blanked etc.). Instead, there is some
> >> system
> >
> > So you have mobile device; why is it impossible to just close the
> > device when you do not want the events? I guess it is hard for generic
> > distros, but on your phone, you should be able to modify Xserver to
> > close touchscreen/keypad device when it is not needed... right?
> 
> We'd had this discussion before... cf. eg.
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.input/9266/focus=9767
> 
> The problem was that several processes may have a device open, while
> another process should be able to control the state of the device.
> Maybe this could be solved by making the controlling process a proxy,
> and having all "user" processes going though it.  Then the

Yes, and the proxy is normally called "X server". We already have it.

> (proxy) process could open/close the device as it wants, letting the
> runtime PM do its job.  But this would mean duplicating some kernel
> functionality (at least multiplexing) in user space.

Yes. We already do that.
								Pavel
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      reply	other threads:[~2010-10-13 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-10-05 17:41 ` [RFC] input: syfs switches for SKE keypad Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06  8:32   ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06  8:56     ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06  9:48       ` Onkalo Samu
2010-10-06 11:41         ` Trilok Soni
2010-10-06 11:58           ` Sundar R IYER
2010-10-06 15:43           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 16:19             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2010-10-06 17:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:19                 ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 18:26                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-10-06 18:51                     ` Alan Stern
2010-10-06 19:08                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-10-13  7:11         ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2010-10-13 17:35           ` Ferenc Wagner
2010-10-13 19:20             ` Pavel Machek [this message]

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