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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: calling runtime PM from system PM methods
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:56:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201106112256.37012.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110611114239.GC2738@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>

On Saturday, June 11, 2011, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:27:25PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > So, there are a few things to consider:
> 
> > * Can the device do things like DMA?
> > * Does the driver use a workqueue?
> > * Does it use timers?
> 
> > In all of the above cases your system suspend handling will require extra
> > care to make sure those things won't get in the way of the suspend process.
> 
> Yes, that's the quiesce operation I think myself or Alan mentioned.
> 
> > It's probably fair to say that everithing depends on the subsystem, what it
> > does and what it expects from the driver.  In the extreme case, when the
> > subsystem is like the platform bus type, the driver unfortunately is on its
> > own and has to deal with the whole complexity.
> 
> I'm pretty much only working with buses that have no infrastructure and
> for which power is essentially orthogonal to the control bus itself -
> that's a very large proportion of the embedded space.  It really feels
> like we could be doing a better job for drivers using these buses,
> there's a lot of similarities in what many of them need but I can never
> find the time to get my head round it confidently enough to actually
> propose anything.

I agree.  That's one of the reasons why I introduced the struct dev_power_domain
thing a while ago and the generic PM domains patchset I've just posted is a step
in that direction.

Thanks,
Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-06-11 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110610155707.GN26436@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
2011-06-10 17:17 ` calling runtime PM from system PM methods Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106101317160.1921-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-10 17:31   ` Mark Brown
     [not found]   ` <20110610173154.GO26436@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
2011-06-10 18:38     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <201106102038.22725.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-10 18:42       ` Mark Brown
     [not found]       ` <20110610184222.GT26436@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
2011-06-10 20:27         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <201106102227.25391.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-10 21:27           ` Alan Stern
2011-06-11 11:42           ` Mark Brown
     [not found]           ` <20110611114239.GC2738@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
2011-06-11 20:56             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2011-06-13 12:22               ` Mark Brown
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2011-06-20 19:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <201106192136.51572.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-20 14:39 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106191042510.11375-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2011-06-19 19:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <201106191604.11074.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-19 15:01 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106182137100.3523-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2011-06-19 14:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <201106190157.31526.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-19  1:42 ` Alan Stern
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2011-06-18 21:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <201106182301.04090.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-18 23:57   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <201106181308.42298.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-18 15:31 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106171554510.2143-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-17 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <201106172329.37087.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-18 11:08   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <201106172147.13189.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-17 20:04 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106161017310.2204-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-16 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <201106170048.37072.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-17 19:47   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106121153510.18475-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2011-06-12 18:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106111227580.3439-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2011-06-11 22:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <201106120046.36618.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-12 15:59   ` Alan Stern
2011-06-15 21:54   ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]   ` <87fwna3gnb.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-16  0:01     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <201106160201.47123.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-16  1:17       ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]       ` <87boxytw05.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-16 14:27         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 22:30         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <87ipsdnt1a.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-11 16:42 ` Alan Stern
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2011-06-10 15:45 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106101131110.1921-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-10 15:57   ` Mark Brown
     [not found] <87k4d55c8k.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-02 14:18 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-06 18:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106021010360.1913-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-02 17:10 ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found] ` <87lixkyxa8.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-02 18:38   ` Alan Stern
2011-06-06 18:29   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <201106062029.36389.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-06 19:16     ` Alan Stern
2011-06-06 22:25     ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]     ` <87zkluwqab.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-07 13:55       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-07 21:32       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <201106072332.30464.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-07 22:34         ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-08 22:50         ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]         ` <87hb80546c.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-09  5:29           ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-09 13:56           ` Alan Stern
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106090945490.2081-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-10 14:36             ` Mark Brown
     [not found]             ` <20110610143657.GF26441@sirena.org.uk>
2011-06-10 14:51               ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106101050140.1921-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2011-06-10 15:21                 ` Mark Brown
2011-06-10 18:49               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <201106102049.03777.rjw@sisk.pl>
2011-06-10 18:54                 ` Mark Brown
     [not found]                 ` <20110610185458.GU26436@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
2011-06-10 20:45                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-10 23:52             ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-10 23:14         ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]         ` <8739jhs2hv.fsf@ti.com>
2011-06-11 16:27           ` Alan Stern
2011-06-11 23:13           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-02  0:05 Kevin Hilman

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