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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: markgross@thegnar.org
Cc: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Antti P Miettinen <amiettinen@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:27:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201201092227.29857.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120109142353.GC11463@mgross-G62>

On Monday, January 09, 2012, mark gross wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 11:59:24PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Friday, January 06, 2012, mark gross wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 02:36:20AM +0200, Antti P Miettinen wrote:
> > > > The inspiration for this patch series is the N9 CPU frequency boost
> > > > upon input events:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.spinics.net/lists/cpufreq/msg00667.html
> > > > 
> > > > and the related changes in git://codeaurora.org/kernel/msm.git tree.
> > > > Those patches modify the ondemand cpufreq governor. This patch series
> > > > adds minimum and maximum CPU frequency as PM QoS parameters and
> > > > modifies the cpufreq core to enforce the PM QoS limits. There is also
> > > > an example module for boosting the frequency upon input events.
> > > > 
> > > > I've been testing these changes against Ubuntu 3.2 kernel on a Dell
> > > > E6420 with the ACPI cpufreq driver. The patches are against
> > > > linux-next/master, compile tested against it.
> > > > 
> > > > 	--Antti
> > > > 
> > > > Alex Frid (1):
> > > >   PM QoS: Simplify PM QoS expansion/merge
> > > > 
> > > > Antti P Miettinen (5):
> > > >   PM QoS: Add CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params
> > > >   cpufreq: Export user_policy min/max
> > > >   cpufreq: Preserve sysfs min/max request
> > > >   cpufreq: Enforce PM QoS min/max limits
> > > >   input: CPU frequency booster
> > > > 
> > > >  drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq.c     |   57 +++++++++++++-
> > > >  drivers/input/Kconfig         |    9 ++
> > > >  drivers/input/Makefile        |    1 +
> > > >  drivers/input/input-cfboost.c |  174 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  include/linux/pm_qos.h        |   19 ++++-
> > > >  kernel/power/qos.c            |   55 ++++++++++----
> > > >  6 files changed, 293 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
> > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/input/input-cfboost.c
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The following is my version of part of this patch set I was tinkering
> > > with.  Its missing the cpufreq notification this change has and doesn't
> > > do anything WRT cfboost.
> > > 
> > > Would it be ok if we could consolidate our two implementations and
> > > completely separate the cfboost stuff as a separate patch set?
> > > 
> > > My code below is missing the cpufreq notification logic you have.
> > 
> > Well, I have one substantial problem with this approach.  Namely, our
> > current PM QoS infrastructure is not suitable for throughput constraints,
> > because they should be additive, unlike the latency ones.
> > 
> > Namely, if sombody requests throughput X and someone else Y, the resulting
> > combined throughput should be X+Y rather than max(X, Y).
> 
> That can be done easy enough.  However; in practice I'm not convinced
> doing and additive aggregation of the requested QoS would be any better
> than just taking the max.

Well, I'd say it's necessary for correctness, perhaps not for the CPU, but in
general.  If Y is the max, then the subsystem that requested X may easily
starve whoever requested the Y by using all of the bandwidth it asked for.

> But, we can give it a try.

Good. :-)

Thanks,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-09 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-06  0:36 [PATCH 0/6] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06  0:36 ` [PATCH 1/6] PM QoS: Simplify PM QoS expansion/merge Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06 15:24   ` mark gross
2012-01-08 23:03     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-06  0:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] PM QoS: Add CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06 15:30   ` mark gross
2012-01-06 19:32     ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-07  3:47       ` mark gross
2012-01-07  8:54         ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06  0:36 ` [PATCH 3/6] cpufreq: Export user_policy min/max Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06 15:33   ` mark gross
2012-01-06 19:29     ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-07  3:53       ` mark gross
2012-01-07  8:47         ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-09 14:18           ` mark gross
2012-01-06  0:36 ` [PATCH 4/6] cpufreq: Preserve sysfs min/max request Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06  0:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] cpufreq: Enforce PM QoS min/max limits Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06 15:38   ` mark gross
2012-01-06  0:36 ` [PATCH 6/6] input: CPU frequency booster Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-06 15:40   ` mark gross
2012-01-06 15:18 ` [PATCH 0/6] RFC: CPU frequency min/max as PM QoS params mark gross
2012-01-06 15:46 ` mark gross
2012-01-06 19:38   ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-07  2:57     ` mark gross
2012-01-06 18:27 ` mark gross
2012-01-08 22:59   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-09 14:23     ` mark gross
2012-01-09 21:27       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2012-01-09 21:57         ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-10 20:44           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-11  7:26             ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-11 23:15               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-12  8:37                 ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-12 23:55                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-10  4:50         ` mark gross
2012-01-10 20:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-10 21:02             ` Jean Pihet
2012-01-11  7:32               ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-11 23:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-12  8:43                   ` Antti P Miettinen
2012-01-13  4:37                     ` mark gross
2012-01-12  3:06               ` mark gross
2012-01-12 23:52                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-01-12  3:01             ` mark gross

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