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From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] cgroup: deprecate clone_children
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:26:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121105192636.GG19354@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121105191714.GA24560@sergelap>

Hello, Serge.

On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 01:17:14PM -0600, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > As this is unnecessary feature with very limited use and awkward in
> 
> clone_children is currently required by lxc.  Of course lxc could
> manually set the .cpus and .mems in the newly created child, but if
> those interfaces or others like it ever change (i.e. any new ones which
> must be set before a task can join a cgroup) we'll get into yet more of
> a rats nets of code to support different kernel versions.

If lxc is using it, this will have to stay then.  I'll try to make it
a cpuset specific thing.

> (Just as an idea, if there was a way to generically tell from the list
> of files in my cgroups dir which files need to be initialized before a
> task can join, I think that would suffice.  Maybe a cgroups.needssetup
> file which right now contains 'cpuset.mems\ncpuset.cpus'. Then if we
> find a file we don't recognize in there we can throw an intelligent
> error, or guess at duplicating the parent value.)

Hmmm... I think the root problem is that different controllers don't
agree on the way they inherit configurations from parents.  cgroup
really is a trainwreck.  :(

I don't know whether "needssetup" is the right way to deal with it.
I'll think more about it.

> > co-mounted use cases, let's try to deprecate it.  Whine on the mount
> > option and accesses to cgroupfs knobs.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> > Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
> > ---
> > Glauber, I think this is more befitting change for .post_clone().  If
> 
> What do you mean by that?  That he is working on a patch-set which will
> remove post_clone and this belongs there, or that there is a proposed
> alternative?

The former.  There was a patchset from Glauber updating ->post_clone()
(which didn't change the behavior).

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-05 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-03  8:38 [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.8] cgroup_freezer: implement proper hierarchy support Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1351931915-1701-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 1/9] cgroup: add cgroup_subsys->post_create() Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-2-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-05 13:42       ` Glauber Costa
     [not found]         ` <5097C23B.3040808-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-05 18:02           ` [RFC] cgroup: deprecate clone_children Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121105180213.GB19354-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-05 19:17               ` Serge Hallyn
2012-11-05 19:26                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-11-07 15:25       ` [PATCH 1/9] cgroup: add cgroup_subsys->post_create() Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121107152516.GA4131-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 17:02           ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 17:15       ` [PATCH 1/9 v2] " Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20121107171508.GF2660-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 17:40           ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08  2:59           ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08 19:07     ` [PATCH 1/9 v3] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-09  9:09       ` Li Zefan
     [not found]       ` <20121108190715.GD9672-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-09  9:09         ` Li Zefan
2012-11-09 11:09         ` Daniel Wagner
     [not found]           ` <509CE472.9040504-kQCPcA+X3s7YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-09 17:22             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]               ` <20121109172211.GB2711-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-10  1:35                 ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-12 13:04               ` Daniel Wagner
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 2/9] cgroup: Use rculist ops for cgroup->children Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 15:30     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-3-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  3:01       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-09  9:10       ` Li Zefan
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 3/9] cgroup: implement generic child / descendant walk macros Tejun Heo
2012-11-06 20:31     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20121106203154.GV30069-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 15:38         ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-07 16:54     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20121107165457.GD4131-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 17:01         ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]           ` <20121107170118.GD2660-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 17:49             ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-4-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  3:21       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  9:50       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 17:15         ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 17:59     ` [PATCH 3/9 v2] " Tejun Heo
     [not found]       ` <20121108175946.GA9672-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-09  9:13         ` Li Zefan
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 4/9] cgroup_freezer: trivial cleanups Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-5-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  3:24       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  9:53       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 5/9] cgroup_freezer: prepare freezer_change_state() for full hierarchy support Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-6-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  4:25       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08  9:56     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 6/9] cgroup_freezer: make freezer->state mask of flags Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-7-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  4:37       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <509B371E.9050005-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  4:42           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121108044255.GG2660-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  5:00               ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-08 14:38                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 10:39       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20121108103928.GD31821-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 14:39           ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]             ` <20121108143952.GD12973-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 14:47               ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 7/9] cgroup_freezer: introduce CGROUP_FREEZING_[SELF|PARENT] Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-8-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  4:42       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <509B382E.4030707-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  4:45           ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08  4:56             ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]               ` <509B3B94.1070407-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 14:41                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 12:47     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 14:42       ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 8/9] cgroup_freezer: add ->post_create() and ->pre_destroy() and track online state Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-9-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08  4:48       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
     [not found]         ` <509B3999.6060505-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 15:41           ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 13:23     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <20121108132306.GH31821-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 17:17         ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-03  8:38   ` [PATCH 9/9] cgroup_freezer: implement proper hierarchy support Tejun Heo
2012-11-07 11:00     ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-07 16:31       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]     ` <1351931915-1701-10-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-07 16:39       ` [PATCH 9/9 v2] " Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20121107163919.GC2660-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 14:08           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20121108140852.GI31821-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 14:18               ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 15:20                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <20121108152039.GL31821-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 15:29                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 15:57                       ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-08 17:57       ` [PATCH 9/9 v3] " Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20121108175750.GK12973-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 18:02           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20121108180246.GA17415-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 18:04               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20121108180417.GC9672-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-08 18:08                   ` Michal Hocko
2012-11-09 17:15   ` [PATCHSET cgroup/for-3.8] " Tejun Heo
2012-11-08 18:01 ` Tejun Heo

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