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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tj@kernel.org, sbw@mit.edu,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, rjw@sisk.pl,
	wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com, xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:42:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121223164242.GA9979@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50D61561.7090805@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 12/23, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>
> On 12/20/2012 07:12 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > We need mb() + rmb(). Plust cli/sti unless this arch has optimized
> > this_cpu_add() like x86 (as you pointed out).
> >
>
> Hey, IIUC, we actually don't need mb() in the reader!! Just an rmb() will do.

Well. I don't think so. But when it comes to the barriers I am never sure
until Paul confirms my understanding ;)

> #define reader_nested_percpu()						\
> 	     (__this_cpu_read(reader_percpu_refcnt) & READER_REFCNT_MASK)
>
> #define writer_active()							\
> 				(__this_cpu_read(writer_signal))
>
>
> #define READER_PRESENT		(1UL << 16)
> #define READER_REFCNT_MASK	(READER_PRESENT - 1)
>
> void get_online_cpus_atomic(void)
> {
> 	preempt_disable();
>
> 	/*
> 	 * First and foremost, make your presence known to the writer.
> 	 */
> 	this_cpu_add(reader_percpu_refcnt, READER_PRESENT);
>
> 	/*
> 	 * If we are already using per-cpu refcounts, it is not safe to switch
> 	 * the synchronization scheme. So continue using the refcounts.
> 	 */
> 	if (reader_nested_percpu()) {
> 		this_cpu_inc(reader_percpu_refcnt);
> 	} else {
> 		smp_rmb();
> 		if (unlikely(writer_active())) {
> 			... //take hotplug_rwlock
> 		}
> 	}
>
> 	...
>
> 	/* Prevent reordering of any subsequent reads of cpu_online_mask. */
> 	smp_rmb();
> }
>
> The smp_rmb() before writer_active() ensures that LOAD(writer_signal) follows
> LOAD(reader_percpu_refcnt) (at the 'if' condition). And in turn, that load is
> automatically going to follow the STORE(reader_percpu_refcnt)

But why this STORE should be visible on another CPU before we LOAD(writer_signal)?

Lets discuss the simple and artificial example. Suppose we have

	int X, Y;

	int func(void)
	{
		X = 1;	// suppose that nobody else can change it
		mb();
		return Y;
	}

Now you are saying that we can change it and avoid the costly mb():

	int func(void)
	{
		X = 1;

		if (X != 1)
			BUG();
	
		rmb();
		return Y;
	}

I doubt. rmb() can only guarantee that the preceding LOAD's should be
completed. Without mb() it is possible that this CPU won't write X to
memory at all.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-23 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-11 14:03 [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 17:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 17:24     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:11       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:23         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:42           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 17:53     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:02       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 18:30         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 18:48           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 19:12             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 15:26               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 16:17                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-13 16:32                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-14 18:03                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-18 15:53                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-18 19:43                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-18 20:06                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-19 16:39                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-19 18:16                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-19 19:14                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-19 19:49                                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-20 13:42                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-20 14:06                                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-22 20:17                                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-23 16:42                                         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-12-24 15:50                                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-13 16:32                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-12 19:36         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-12 19:43           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-12 21:10             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/9] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:04 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/9] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/9] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/9] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/9] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/9] kvm, vmx: Add atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-11 14:05 ` [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat

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