From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v5 00/14] sched: packing tasks
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:45:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131113164457.GF18837@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5283A545.4040406@linux.intel.com>
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 04:13:57PM +0000, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 11/12/2013 3:14 PM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On 12 Nov 2013, at 16:48, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> >> On 11/11/2013 10:18 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> >>> The ordering is based on the actual C-state, so a simple way is to wake
> >>> up the CPU in the shallowest C-state. With asymmetric configurations
> >>> (big.LITTLE) we have different costs for the same C-state, so this would
> >>> come in handy.
> >>
> >> btw I was considering something else; in practice CPUs will be in the deepest state..
> >> ... at which point I was going to go with some other metrics of what is best from a platform level
> >
> > I agree, other metrics are needed. The problem is that we currently
> > only have (relatively, guessed from the target residency) the cost of
> > transition from a C-state to a P-state (for the latter, not sure which).
> > But we don’t know what the power (saving) on that C-state is nor the one
> > at a P-state (and vendors reluctant to provide such information). So the
> > best the scheduler can do is optimise the wake-up cost and blindly assume
> > that deeper C-state on a CPU is more efficient than lower P-states on two
> > other CPUs (or the other way around).
>
> for picking the cpu to wake on there are also low level physical kind of things
> we'd want to take into account on the intel side.
Are these static and could they be hidden behind some cost number in a
topology description? If they are dynamic, we would need arch or driver
hooks to give some cost or priority number that the scheduler can use.
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-13 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1382097147-30088-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
2013-11-11 11:33 ` [RFC][PATCH v5 00/14] sched: packing tasks Catalin Marinas
2013-11-11 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 16:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-11 18:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-11 18:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 12:06 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-11-12 16:48 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 23:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-13 16:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-13 16:45 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2013-11-13 17:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 17:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-25 18:55 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-11-11 16:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-11 16:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-12 10:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-11-11 16:54 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-11-11 18:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-11 19:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2013-11-11 22:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-11-11 23:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-12 12:35 ` Vincent Guittot
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