From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 idle: repair large-server 50-watt idle-power regression
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 19:14:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131219181410.GB32508@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52B33567.9060205@zytor.com>
* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 12/19/2013 09:36 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 06:25:35PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> That said, I would find it very strange indeed if a CLFLUSH doesn't also
> >> flush the store buffer.
> >
> > OK, it explicitly states it does not do that and you indeed need
> > an mfence before the clflush.
>
> So, MONITOR is defined to be ordered as a load, which I think should
> be adequate, but I really wonder if we should have mfence on both
> sides of clflush. This now is up to 9 bytes, and perhaps pushing it
> a bit with how much we would be willing to patch out.
>
> On the other hand - the CLFLUSH seems to have worked well enough by
> itself, and this is all probabilistic anyway, so perhaps we should
> just leave the naked CLFLUSH in and not worry about it unless
> measurements say otherwise?
So I think the window of breakage was rather large here, and since it
seems to trigger on rare types of hardware I think we'd be better off
by erring on the side of robustness this time around ...
This is the 'go to idle' path, which isn't as time-critical as the
'get out of idle' code path.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-12-19 18:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-18 21:44 [PATCH] x86 idle: repair large-server 50-watt idle-power regression Len Brown
2013-12-19 12:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 14:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 15:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-12-19 15:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 16:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 16:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 16:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 16:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 16:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 17:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 17:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 17:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 18:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:14 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-12-19 17:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-12-19 18:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 21:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 18:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 18:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 18:23 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <CA+55aFzGxcML7j8CEvQPYzh0W81uVoAAVmGctMOUZ7CZ1yYd2A@mail.gmail.com>
2013-12-19 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-12-19 19:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-12-19 19:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
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