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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Wei Ni <wni@nvidia.com>
Cc: Eduardo Valentin <eduardo.valentin@ti.com>,
	Matthew Longnecker <MLongnecker@nvidia.com>,
	"swarren@wwwdotorg.org" <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Pawel Moll <Pawel.Moll@arm.com>,
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	"durgadoss.r@intel.com" <durgadoss.r@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHv9 02/20] thermal: introduce device tree parser
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 12:02:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140107120248.GD4180@e106331-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52CB69FA.9080903@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Jan 07, 2014 at 02:44:10AM +0000, Wei Ni wrote:
> On 01/06/2014 10:54 PM, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> > * PGP Signed by an unknown key
> > 
> > On 06-01-2014 09:51, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 05:50:06PM +0000, Matthew Longnecker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think the platform driver may set governor for the thermal zone,
> >>>> so how about to add a property named as "governor",
> >>>> and parse it to tzp->governor_name,
> >>>> something like:
> >>>>                  ret = of_property_read_string(child, "governor", &str);
> >>>>                  if (ret == 0)
> >>>>                          if (strlen(str) < THERMAL_NAME_LENGTH)
> >>>>                                  strcpy(tzp->governor_name, str);
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>> Wei.
> >>>
> >>> DT is supposed to describe the hardware, right? The governor isn't 
> >>> hardware -- it's a software control policy. On the other hand, that 
> >>> control policy must be tuned according to the behaviors of the platform 
> >>> hardware otherwise the system will be unstable.
> >>>
> >>> Is it appropriate to be naming the governor in DT? If so, is it equally 
> >>> appropriate to describe any governor-specific parameters in DT (even 
> >>> though they are pure software constructs)?
> >>
> >> The dt should be relatively static -- if the hardware doesn't change the
> >> dt shouldn't have to.
> >>
> >> The governers are not static. We can introduce new ones and throw away
> >> old ones at any time. Tuning parameters can also change at any time.
> >>
> >> I'd prefer to not have governer details described in the dt, and the
> >> choice of governer and configuration of its tuning parameters should be
> >> made at runtime somehow.
> >
> > Agreed.
> 
> Yes, I think so, but the of-thermal driver handle the
> thermal_zone_device_register, and pass the "tzp" without governor_name,
> so the created thermal_zone's governor will be NULL, then it can't run
> into the governor->throttle() if needed. And currently there have no
> interface to support updating governor and configuration at runtime.
> I think it's better to initialize the governor_name when register the
> thermal zone device in the of-thermal driver.

Initialising it in the driver doesn't mean it has to come from the
device tree. That's still a run-time decision, even though it's made
immediately after parsing the DT.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-07 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-12 19:46 [PATCHv5 00/20] device thermal limits represented in device tree nodes (v5) Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 01/20] thermal: allow registering without .get_temp Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv9 02/20] thermal: introduce device tree parser Eduardo Valentin
     [not found]   ` <1384285582-16933-3-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 16:57     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-14 11:31       ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-14 13:40         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-15 13:19           ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-21 14:57             ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-21 15:48               ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-21 16:32                 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-11-22 12:33                   ` Eduardo Valentin
     [not found]                     ` <528F4F1E.60903-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-25 15:31                       ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]                         ` <20131125153118.GG32081-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-25 15:40                           ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-25 15:41                         ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-25 15:14               ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-25 15:34                 ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-15  8:07   ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-11-18  6:04     ` Zhang Rui
2013-11-18 14:45       ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-19 14:43         ` Jean Delvare
2013-11-25 15:37   ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]     ` <20131125153721.GH32081-NuALmloUBlrZROr8t4l/smS4ubULX0JqMm0uRHvK7Nw@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-25 15:47       ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-12-31 10:17   ` Wei Ni
     [not found]     ` <52C299A8.4010108-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-07  2:48       ` Wei Ni
     [not found]         ` <52CB6AE2.2090002-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-07 11:17           ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-01-08  3:19             ` Wei Ni
2014-01-08  3:24               ` Hu Yaohui
     [not found]                 ` <CAHqbYQvchi3QSgcitUtguFyOJtXhFt5OjcoiSDZnPg9ZyiN4cg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-08  4:16                   ` Wei Ni
2014-01-02  2:55   ` Wei Ni
2014-01-02  3:03     ` Wei Ni
2014-01-02  2:59   ` Wei Ni
2014-01-02 17:50     ` Matthew Longnecker
2014-01-06 13:51       ` Mark Rutland
2014-01-06 14:54         ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-01-07  2:44           ` Wei Ni
2014-01-07 12:02             ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2014-01-13 21:29             ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-01-14  2:54               ` Wei Ni
2014-01-14 18:48                 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-01-13 15:37       ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-01-02 17:35   ` Matthew Longnecker
     [not found]     ` <52C5A344.2060908-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-06 18:52       ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 03/20] thermal: core: introduce thermal_of_cooling_device_register Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 04/20] thermal: cpu_cooling: introduce of_cpufreq_cooling_register Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 05/20] cpufreq: cpufreq-cpu0: add dt node parsing for cooling device properties Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-14 13:17   ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-14 22:04     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-11-15  4:41   ` viresh kumar
2014-01-12 14:31   ` Zhang, Rui
2014-01-13 15:08     ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-01-14 19:07     ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 06/20] hwmon: lm75: expose to thermal fw via DT nodes Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-15  7:43   ` Jean Delvare
2013-11-18 14:27     ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-18 16:25       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-11-18 16:40         ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-19  9:39       ` Jean Delvare
2013-11-22 14:37         ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-23 18:38           ` Jean Delvare
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 07/20] hwmon: tmp102: " Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 08/20] thermal: ti-soc-thermal: use thermal DT infrastructure Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 09/20] arm: dts: add omap4 CPU thermal data Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 10/20] arm: dts: add omap4430 " Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-20 12:32   ` Pavel Machek
2013-11-21 15:36     ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 11/20] arm: dts: add omap4460 " Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 12/20] arm: dts: add cooling properties on omap4430 cpu node Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 13/20] arm: dts: add cooling properties on omap4460 " Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 14/20] arm: dts: add omap5 GPU thermal data Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 15/20] arm: dts: add omap5 CORE " Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 16/20] arm: dts: add omap5 " Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 17/20] arm: dts: add cooling properties on omap5 cpu node Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 18/20] arm: dts: make OMAP443x bandgap node to belong to OCP Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:46 ` [PATCHv5 19/20] arm: dts: make OMAP4460 " Eduardo Valentin
     [not found] ` <1384285582-16933-1-git-send-email-eduardo.valentin-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 19:46   ` [PATCHv5 20/20] MAINTAINERS: add maintainer entry for thermal bindings Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-12 19:59     ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-12 20:14       ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-13  9:42         ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-13 12:17           ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-13 14:46           ` Eduardo Valentin
2013-11-14 13:30           ` [PATCHv6 20/20] MAINTAINERS: add thermal bindings entry in thermal domain Eduardo Valentin

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