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From: Yuyang Du <yuyang.du@intel.com>
To: Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>
Cc: 'Johan Hovold' <jhovold@gmail.com>,
	'Dirk Brandewie' <dirk.brandewie@gmail.com>,
	'Viresh Kumar' <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	dirk.j.brandewie@intel.com,
	"'Rafael J. Wysocki'" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	'Linux Kernel Mailing List' <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	'Greg Kroah-Hartman' <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	'Stratos Karafotis' <stratosk@semaphore.gr>
Subject: Re: Performance regression in v3.14
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 00:53:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140528165337.GB2296@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002401cf7a8d$fc6d9090$f548b1b0$@net>

> That is not true. Yes, and due to the setpoint being less than
> 100, which is needed or the driver won't work at all, there is
> a tendency to drive the target pstate upwards.
> However that is tempered by both the PID proportional gain,
> and ultimately integer math. More importantly, the CPU
> itself tells the driver when it is operating below the target
> pstate and driver responds.
> 
> Additionally, the tendency to drive up the target pstate
> too much is exasperated by some extra rounding up at a
> couple of spots. Dirk has a pending fix.
> 
> > And a few iterations
> > later, we will reach max (possible) frequency,
> > then we are effectively performance governor
> > (highest frequency all the time).
> 
> Please do not confuse highest target pstate with
> highest frequency. They are not the same. The processor
> itself can back off.
> 
Hi Doug,

All you said is about the hardware will not give whatever software wants
(e.g., requested freq too high). Agreed.

But does it matter to this discussion?

Yuyang 

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-28 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-06 16:35 Performance regression in v3.14 Johan Hovold
2014-05-07  5:40 ` Viresh Kumar
2014-05-07  7:35   ` Johan Hovold
2014-05-07  8:36     ` Romain Francoise
2014-05-07 14:10   ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-05-21  9:00     ` Johan Hovold
2014-05-28  7:59       ` Johan Hovold
2014-05-28  0:35         ` Yuyang Du
2014-05-28 16:00           ` Doug Smythies
2014-05-28 16:53             ` Yuyang Du [this message]
2014-05-30  2:27         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-05-30  8:49           ` Johan Hovold
2014-05-30 12:29           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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