From: Henrik Austad <henrik@austad.us>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
"vincent.guittot@linaro.org" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"daniel.lezcano@linaro.org" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <Dietmar.Eggemann@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/16] sched: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_ENERGY
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:17:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140610111732.GA30139@austad.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140610102353.GC6758@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:23:53PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:06:41AM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > How would you like to disable the energy stuff for users for whom
> > latency is everything?
> >
> > I mean, we are adding some extra load/utilization tracking. While I
> > think we should do everything possible to minimize the overhead, I think
> > it is unrealistic to assume that it will be zero. Is a some extra 'if
> > (energy_enabled)' acceptable?
> >
> > I'm open for other suggestions.
>
> We have the jump-label stuff to do self modifying code ;-) The only
> thing we need to be careful with is data-layout.
Isn't this asking for trouble?
I do get the point of not introducing more make-ifdeffery, but I'm not
so sure the alternative is much better. Do we really want to spend time
tracing down bugs introduced via a self-modifying process in something
as central as the scheduler?
> So I'm _hoping_ we can do all this without more CONFIG knobs, because
> {PREEMPT*SMP*CGROUP^3*NUMA^2} is already entirely annoying to
> build and run test, not to mention that distro builds will have no other
> option than to enable everything anyhow.
True, but if that is the argument, how is adding this as a dynamic thing
any better, you still end up with a test-matrix of the same size?
Building a kernel isn't _that_ much work and it would make the
test-scripts all the much simpler to maintain if we don't have to rely
on some dynamic tweaking of the core.
Just sayin'
--
Henrik Austad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-10 11:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-23 18:16 [RFC PATCH 00/16] sched: Energy cost model for energy-aware scheduling Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] sched: Documentation for scheduler energy cost model Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-05 8:49 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-06-05 11:35 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-05 15:02 ` Vincent Guittot
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] sched: Introduce CONFIG_SCHED_ENERGY Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-08 6:03 ` Henrik Austad
2014-06-09 10:20 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 10:06 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 10:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 11:17 ` Henrik Austad [this message]
2014-06-10 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 11:24 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-10 12:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 14:41 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] sched: Introduce sd energy data structures Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] sched: Allocate and initialize sched energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] sched: Add sd energy procfs interface Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm: topology: Define TC2 sched energy and provide it to scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-30 12:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-02 14:15 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-03 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 13:49 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-03 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 15:42 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-04 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 13:15 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-06 13:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 14:29 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-12 15:05 ` Vince Weaver
2014-06-03 11:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 16:02 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-04 17:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-04 21:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-06-05 6:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-05 15:03 ` Dirk Brandewie
2014-06-05 20:29 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 0:35 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 10:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-06 12:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-06 12:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-06 14:11 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 2:33 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-09 8:27 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-09 13:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-11 11:02 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-06-11 11:42 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-11 11:43 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-06-11 13:37 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 23:53 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-07 23:26 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-09 8:59 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-09 2:15 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-10 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-10 17:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-06-10 18:35 ` Yuyang Du
2014-06-06 16:27 ` Jacob Pan
2014-06-06 13:03 ` Morten Rasmussen
2014-06-07 2:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] sched: Introduce system-wide sched_energy Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] sched: Introduce SD_SHARE_CAP_STATES sched_domain flag Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] sched, cpufreq: Introduce current cpu compute capacity into scheduler Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] sched, cpufreq: Current compute capacity hack for ARM TC2 Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] sched: Energy model functions Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] sched: Task wakeup tracking Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] sched: Take task wakeups into account in energy estimates Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] sched: Use energy model in select_idle_sibling Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] sched: Use energy to guide wakeup task placement Morten Rasmussen
2014-05-23 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] sched: Disable wake_affine to broaden the scope of wakeup target cpus Morten Rasmussen
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