From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
"Alan Cox" <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
"Len Brown" <len.brown@intel.com>, "Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Philippe Rétornaz" <philippe.retornaz@gmail.com>,
"Romain Perier" <romain.perier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/47] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:11:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141021161104.GB3453@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2369971.tIcht5GPeB@vostro.rjw.lan>
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 04:15:11PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 06:17:09 AM Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On 10/21/2014 05:26 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 20, 2014 09:12:17 PM Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > >> Various drivers implement architecture and/or device specific means to
> > >> remove power from the system. For the most part, those drivers set the
> > >> global variable pm_power_off to point to a function within the driver.
> > >>
> > >> This mechanism has a number of drawbacks. Typically only one scheme
> > >> to remove power is supported (at least if pm_power_off is used).
> > >> At least in theory there can be multiple means remove power, some of
> > >> which may be less desirable. For example, some mechanisms may only
> > >> power off the CPU or the CPU card, while another may power off the
> > >> entire system. Others may really just execute a restart sequence
> > >> or drop into the ROM monitor. Using pm_power_off can also be racy
> > >> if the function pointer is set from a driver built as module, as the
> > >> driver may be in the process of being unloaded when pm_power_off is
> > >> called. If there are multiple poweroff handlers in the system, removing
> > >> a module with such a handler may inadvertently reset the pointer to
> > >> pm_power_off to NULL, leaving the system with no means to remove power.
> > >>
> > >> Introduce a system poweroff handler call chain to solve the described
> > >> problems. This call chain is expected to be executed from the
> > >> architecture specific machine_power_off() function. Drivers providing
> > >> system poweroff functionality are expected to register with this call chain.
> > >> By using the priority field in the notifier block, callers can control
> > >> poweroff handler execution sequence and thus ensure that the poweroff
> > >> handler with the optimal capabilities to remove power for a given system
> > >> is called first.
> > >
> > > Well, I must admit to having second thoughts regarding this particular
> > > mechanism. Namely, notifiers don't seem to be the best way of expressing
> > > what's needed from the design standpoint.
> > >
> > > It looks like we need a list of power off methods and a way to select one
> > > of them, so it seems that using a plist would be a natural choice here?
> > >
> > Isn't a notifier call chain nothing but a list of methods, with its priority
> > the means to select which one to use (first) ?
>
> Traditionally, the idea behind notifier call chains has been to call all of the
> supplied methods (meaning whoever supplied them wants to be notified of events)
> where the higher-priority ones are called first.
>
> In this particular case, though, we call them until one succeeds to power
> off the system it seems.
>
> > The only difference I can see is that you would only select one of them,
> > meaning the one with the highest priority, and not try the others.
>
> Yes, this was my thought.
>
> But if you want a fallback mechanism, then I agree that using notifiers makes
> sense, although it is not exactly about notifications this time.
>
It is the same machanism we are using for the newly introduced restart handler,
with the same logic. Notifiers come handy, because the infrastructure is already
there, but I consider that to be more of an implementation detail. It is useful
in many cases, though, since the notifier_block can be part of a local data
structure which can be referenced from the callback using container_of.
If I don't use notifiers, and the callback function doesn't get a reference to
its control block, I don't get that reference, and another means to pass context
data into the notifier function would be necessary - either a static variable,
as widely used so far, or another parameter. While the current code of course
permits the use of a static variable, I very much like that it is possible to
avoid that by using notifiers.
> I would probably use something along the lines of syscore_ops, but with added
> execution priority.
But wouldn't that mean to, for all practical purposes, re-implement a notifier
call chain in syscore just for the purpose of naming it differently ?
>From a practical side, it would also be a bit awkward since syscore_ops are
typically not installed from the same file as the poweroff handler. So I would
either have to rearrange code significantly, or install two sysore_ops handlers
for the same architecture / platform. Hope it would be ok to do the latter; if
the first approach is asked for, I'd rather only implement the core code and not
do the full conversion, as it would add more risk than I think it adds value.
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-21 16:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-21 4:12 [PATCH v2 00/47] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 01/47] " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 6:46 ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-21 13:29 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 8:02 ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-22 13:22 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 9:34 ` Johan Hovold
2014-10-21 10:30 ` Lee Jones
2014-10-21 13:32 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 13:34 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 15:50 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 18:27 ` Johan Hovold
2014-10-21 12:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 12:44 ` Heiko Stübner
2014-10-21 13:17 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 14:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 16:11 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 02/47] memory: emif: Use API function to determine poweroff capability Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 18:48 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-10-22 22:18 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 03/47] hibernate: Call have_kernel_power_off instead of checking pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 04/47] m68k: Replace mach_power_off with pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 3:50 ` Greg Ungerer
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 05/47] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 8:15 ` Lee Jones
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/47] gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 07/47] qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 08/47] kernel: Move pm_power_off to common code Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 15:31 ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-22 15:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-24 9:47 ` James Hogan
2014-10-24 15:53 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-24 10:02 ` [uml-user] " Lennox Wu
2014-10-24 10:03 ` Lennox Wu
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 09/47] mfd: palmas: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 10/47] mfd: axp20x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 11/47] mfd: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 12/47] mfd: ab8500-sysctrl: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-27 15:59 ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-27 16:42 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 13/47] mfd: max8907: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 14/47] mfd: tps80031: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 15/47] mfd: dm355evm_msp: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 16/47] mfd: tps6586x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 17/47] mfd: tps65910: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 18/47] mfd: twl4030-power: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 19/47] mfd: rk808: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 20/47] mfd: rn5t618: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 21/47] ipmi: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 22/47] power/reset: restart-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:32 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-22 22:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 23/47] power/reset: gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:32 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 24/47] power/reset: as3722-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 25/47] power/reset: qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 26/47] power/reset: msm-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 27/47] power/reset: vexpress-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:34 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 28/47] power/reset: at91-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:34 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 29/47] power/reset: ltc2952-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:35 ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 30/47] x86: iris: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 31/47] x86: apm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 8:46 ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 32/47] x86: olpc: Register xo1 poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 33/47] staging: nvec: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 34/47] acpi: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 35/47] arm: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 36/47] arm64: psci: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 11:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-22 15:38 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 12:52 ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-22 15:37 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 37/47] avr32: atngw100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 38/47] ia64: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 39/47] m68k: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 40/47] mips: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 15:32 ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-22 15:44 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 41/47] sh: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 42/47] x86: lguest: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:12 ` [PATCH v2 43/47] x86: ce4100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:13 ` [PATCH v2 44/47] x86: intel-mid: Drop registration of dummy poweroff handlers Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:13 ` [PATCH v2 45/47] x86: pmc_atom: Register poweroff handler with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:13 ` [PATCH v2 46/47] efi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 4:13 ` [PATCH v2 47/47] kernel: Remove pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
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