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From: Javi Merino <javi.merino@arm.com>
To: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>
Cc: Punit Agrawal <Punit.Agrawal@arm.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 6/9] thermal: cpu_cooling: implement the power cooling device API
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 19:06:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150129190608.GG2874@e104805> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150129001506.GA28216@developer>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:15:07AM +0000, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> > Hi Eduardo,
> > 
> > Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Hello Javi,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 07:04:17PM +0000, Javi Merino wrote:
> > >> Add a basic power model to the cpu cooling device to implement the
> > >> power cooling device API.  The power model uses the current frequency,
> > >> current load and OPPs for the power calculations.  The cpus must have
> > >> registered their OPPs using the OPP library.
> > >> 
> > >> Cc: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
> > >> Cc: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Punit Agrawal <punit.agrawal@arm.com>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Javi Merino <javi.merino@arm.com>
> > >
> > > <big cut>
> > >
> > >> +
> > >> +/**
> > >> + * get_load() - get load for a cpu since last updated
> > >> + * @cpufreq_device:	&struct cpufreq_cooling_device for this cpu
> > >> + * @cpu:	cpu number
> > >> + *
> > >> + * Return: The average load of cpu @cpu in percentage since this
> > >> + * function was last called.
> > >> + */
> > >> +static u32 get_load(struct cpufreq_cooling_device *cpufreq_device, int cpu)
> > >> +{
> > >> +	u32 load;
> > >> +	u64 now, now_idle, delta_time, delta_idle;
> > >> +
> > >> +	now_idle = get_cpu_idle_time(cpu, &now, 0);
> > >> +	delta_idle = now_idle - cpufreq_device->time_in_idle[cpu];
> > >> +	delta_time = now - cpufreq_device->time_in_idle_timestamp[cpu];
> > >> +
> > >> +	if (delta_time <= delta_idle)
> > >> +		load = 0;
> > >> +	else
> > >> +		load = div64_u64(100 * (delta_time - delta_idle), delta_time);
> > >> +
> > >> +	cpufreq_device->time_in_idle[cpu] = now_idle;
> > >> +	cpufreq_device->time_in_idle_timestamp[cpu] = now;
> > >> +
> > >> +	return load;
> > >> +}
> > >
> > > <cut>
> > >
> > >>  
> > >> +/**
> > >> + * cpufreq_get_actual_power() - get the current power
> > >> + * @cdev:	&thermal_cooling_device pointer
> > >> + *
> > >> + * Return the current power consumption of the cpus in milliwatts.
> > >> + */
> > >> +static u32 cpufreq_get_actual_power(struct thermal_cooling_device *cdev)
> > >> +{
> > >> +	unsigned long freq;
> > >> +	int cpu;
> > >> +	u32 static_power, dynamic_power, total_load = 0;
> > >> +	struct cpufreq_cooling_device *cpufreq_device = cdev->devdata;
> > >> +
> > >> +	freq = cpufreq_quick_get(cpumask_any(&cpufreq_device->allowed_cpus));
> > >> +
> > >> +	for_each_cpu(cpu, &cpufreq_device->allowed_cpus) {
> > >> +		u32 load;
> > >> +
> > >> +		if (cpu_online(cpu))
> > >> +			load = get_load(cpufreq_device, cpu);
> > >> +		else
> > >> +			load = 0;
> > >> +
> > >> +		total_load += load;
> > >> +	}
> > >> +
> > >> +	cpufreq_device->last_load = total_load;
> > >> +
> > >> +	static_power = get_static_power(cpufreq_device, freq);
> > >> +	dynamic_power = get_dynamic_power(cpufreq_device, freq);
> > >> +
> > >> +	return static_power + dynamic_power;
> > >> +}
> > >
> > > With respect to load computation vs. frequency usage vs. power
> > > estimation, while getting actual power for a given interval T. What if
> > > in interval T, we have used, say, 3 different cpu frequencies, and the
> > > load on the first was 50%, on the second 80%, and on the last frequency,
> > > the load was 60%, what should be the right load value for computing the
> > > actual power? 
> > >
> > > I mean, we are using the total idle time for a given interval, but 1 -
> > > idle not always seams to reflect actual load on different opps, if opps
> > > change over time within T time interval window.
> > 
> > The value returned by cpufreq_get_actual_power is used as a proxy for
> > the estimate of the requested power of the actor for the next window
> > duration. Even though the frequency might have changed in the previous
> > period, the current frequency reflects the latest information about the
> > required performance. As it is an estimate, and to avoid making the
> > power calculations more complicated, we used utilisation (1 - idle time)
> > to calculate the request. The estimate for the T+1 period becomes more
> > accurate as the load stabilises.
> > 
> > In our testing on different workloads using 100ms as the polling period
> > for thermal control, we didn't see any problems arising from the use of
> > this definition of utilisation.
> > 
> > Having said that, there are a number of ways to improve the accuracy of
> > the power calculations. As part of investigating the effects of
> > improving model accuracy and it's effect on thermal control and
> > performance, we plan to look at fine-grained frequency and load tracking
> > once the initial set of patches are merged.
> 
> In this case, I believe we must mark the code at least with a TODO or
> REVISIT mark. Can we add the above comments within a REVISIT: mark in
> this part of the code?

Ok, we will add a comment that summarizes this discussion around this
area of code, acknowledging the simplification and hinting that we
will look into improving it.

Cheers,
Javi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-29 19:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-05 19:04 [RFC PATCH v6 0/9] The power allocator thermal governor Javi Merino
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 1/9] tracing: Add array printing helpers Javi Merino
2014-12-08 14:39   ` Dave P Martin
2014-12-08 15:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-12-08 16:04     ` Dave P Martin
2014-12-10 10:52       ` Javi Merino
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 2/9] tools lib traceevent: Generalize numeric argument Javi Merino
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 3/9] tools lib traceevent: Add support for __print_u{8,16,32,64}_array() Javi Merino
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 4/9] thermal: let governors have private data for each thermal zone Javi Merino
2014-12-08  4:11   ` Zhang Rui
2015-01-23 14:33     ` Javi Merino
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 5/9] thermal: extend the cooling device API to include power information Javi Merino
2014-12-23 15:14   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-05 15:37     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-05 21:04       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-06 10:34         ` Javi Merino
2015-01-06 13:08           ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 6/9] thermal: cpu_cooling: implement the power cooling device API Javi Merino
2014-12-08  5:49   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-08 12:50     ` Javi Merino
2014-12-08 13:31       ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-08 14:22         ` Javi Merino
2014-12-09  1:59           ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-09 10:32             ` Javi Merino
2014-12-09 10:36               ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-09 11:00                 ` Javi Merino
2014-12-09 11:06                   ` Viresh Kumar
2014-12-09 11:23                     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-02 14:37                   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-05 16:53                     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-05 20:44                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-06 11:01                         ` Javi Merino
2015-01-28  5:23   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-29 11:19     ` Punit Agrawal
2015-01-29  0:15       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-29 19:06         ` Javi Merino [this message]
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 7/9] thermal: introduce the Power Allocator governor Javi Merino
2015-01-02 15:46   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-06 13:23     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-06 14:18       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-06 14:50         ` Javi Merino
2015-01-02 15:51   ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 8/9] thermal: add trace events to the power allocator governor Javi Merino
2014-12-05 19:04 ` [RFC PATCH v6 9/9] of: thermal: Introduce sustainable power for a thermal zone Javi Merino
2015-01-02 15:53   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-06  9:42     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-06 13:13       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-06 13:29         ` Javi Merino

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