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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] pm: domains: sync runtime PM status with PM domains
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:03:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150218100322.GT8656@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1685853.blxysuNkEh@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 08:02:30AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 07:42:43 PM Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > It's worse than that.  If, in the probe, we decide at a point to query
> > the PM domain status, and transfer it into the RPM status, how does the
> > driver know whether it needs to do a "put" to cause a transition from
> > active to suspended?
> 
> When ->probe() runs, the cases are:
> (1) There are no power domains, so the device is "active" when the clock is
>     enabled and "suspended" when it is disabled.
> (2) There is a power domain which is initially off.  The RPM status of the
>     device has to be "suspended" or the domain needs to be powered up.

(quick reply)

That's not entirely correct.

As a result of 2ed127697eb13 (PM / Domains: Power on the PM domain right
after attach completes) the power domain will _always_ be powered on prior
to ->probe() being called, if the device was attached to the PM domain
just before ->probe() is called, inspite of the domain being powered off
before the device was attached to the domain.

If the PM domain is attached earlier, and pm_genpd_poweroff_unused() is
called (before they're attached, but in the kernel boot sequence) the
work for powering down the PM domains will be queued until a point where
it can be scheduled - which will be after devices are attached.  That can
allow the PM domain(s) to be powered down (as no driver is attached) which
then results in the driver's ->probe function being called with the PM
domain OFF.

So, right now, there's no way for a driver to know with certainty whether
the device it is about to probe is powered up or powered down.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-18 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-14 15:26 [FOR DISCUSSION 0/8] Dove PMU support Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH 1/8] pm: domains: quieten down generic pm domains Russell King
2015-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/8] pm: domains: avoid potential oops in pm_genpd_remove_device() Russell King
2015-02-14 15:27 ` [PATCH 3/8] pm: domains: sync runtime PM status with PM domains Russell King
2015-02-15  4:24   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-02-17 18:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-17 19:42     ` Alan Stern
2015-02-17 19:42     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-18  7:02       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-18 10:03         ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-02-18 15:12           ` Alan Stern
2015-02-18 15:42             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-18 16:52             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-18 17:26               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-18 18:05                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-03-04 19:57                   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-03-04 20:11                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-18 18:42                 ` Alan Stern
2015-02-18 16:46           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-02-14 16:49 ` [FOR DISCUSSION 0/8] Dove PMU support Andrew Lunn

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