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From: Javi Merino <javi.merino@arm.com>
To: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>
Cc: "linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Punit Agrawal <Punit.Agrawal@arm.com>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/7] thermal: introduce the Power Allocator governor
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:48:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150225144849.GA2904@e104805> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150224182124.GB3448@developer.amazonguestwifi.org>

Hi Eduardo,

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 06:21:26PM +0000, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 05:00:35PM +0000, Javi Merino wrote:
> > +
> > +k_d
> > +---
> > +
> > +`k_d` configures the PID loop's derivative term constant.  It's
> > +recommended to leave it as the default: 0.
> > +
> 
> I know we are considering K_d = 0. However, ...
> 
> <yet another big cut>
> 
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Calculate the derivative term
> > +	 *
> > +	 * We do err - prev_err, so with a positive k_d, a decreasing
> > +	 * error (i.e. driving closer to the line) results in less
> > +	 * power being applied, slowing down the controller)
> > +	 */
> > +	d = mul_frac(tz->tzp->k_d, err - params->prev_err);
> 
> 
> ... Shouldn't the above d component consider the rate of changes over time of the error?
> 
> I would expect you should do:
> d = k_d * (dE / dt)
> 
> or
> 
> d = K_d * ((err - params->prev_err) / sampling_period)
> 
> in plain C:
> 
> +	d = mul_frac(tz->tzp->k_d, err - params->prev_err);
> +	d /= tz->passive_polling; /* might require fixed point division */

Could do.  To be honest, both k_d and passive_polling are constants so
I don't think you get anything by doing this other than the added
complexity of the fixed point division.  As you said, the default k_d
is 0, so I'm not strongly against it.

Cheers,
Javi

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-25 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-28 17:00 [PATCH v1 0/7] The power allocator thermal governor Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 1/7] thermal: let governors have private data for each thermal zone Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 2/7] thermal: extend the cooling device API to include power information Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 3/7] thermal: cpu_cooling: implement the power cooling device API Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:56   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-29 19:11     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 4/7] thermal: introduce the Power Allocator governor Javi Merino
2015-02-02 23:51   ` Lina Iyer
2015-02-03 13:03     ` Javi Merino
2015-02-03  4:31       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-02-03 17:32         ` Lina Iyer
2015-02-03 19:19           ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-02-04 23:47             ` Lina Iyer
2015-02-09 10:14               ` Javi Merino
2015-02-24 18:21   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-02-25 14:48     ` Javi Merino [this message]
2015-02-25 19:00       ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-02-26 17:52         ` Javi Merino
2015-02-26 20:32   ` Eduardo Valentin
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 5/7] thermal: add trace events to the power allocator governor Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:31   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-02-02 15:44     ` Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 6/7] of: thermal: Introduce sustainable power for a thermal zone Javi Merino
2015-01-28 17:00 ` [PATCH v1 7/7] thermal: export thermal_zone_parameters to sysfs Javi Merino
2015-02-05 12:06 ` [PATCH v1 0/7] The power allocator thermal governor Javi Merino

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