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From: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
To: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
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	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"msivasub@codeaurora.org" <msivasub@codeaurora.org>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/9] ARM: common: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:22:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150813162205.GQ52339@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150813155245.GD13833@red-moon>

On Thu, Aug 13 2015 at 09:52 -0600, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 04:45:03PM +0100, Lina Iyer wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 13 2015 at 09:01 -0600, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>> >On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 04:14:51AM +0100, Rob Herring wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org> wrote:
>> >> > Define and add Generic PM domains (genpd) for ARM CPU clusters. Many new
>> >> > SoCs group CPUs as clusters. Clusters share common resources like GIC,
>> >> > power rail, caches, VFP, Coresight etc. When all CPUs in the cluster are
>> >> > idle, these shared resources may also be put in their idle state.
>> >> >
>> >> > The idle time between the last CPU entering idle and a CPU resuming
>> >> > execution is an opportunity for these shared resources to be powered
>> >> > down. Generic PM domain provides a framework for defining such power
>> >> > domains and attach devices to the domain. When the devices in the domain
>> >> > are idle at runtime, the domain would also be suspended and resumed
>> >> > before the first of the devices resume execution.
>> >> >
>> >> > We define a generic PM domain for each cluster and attach CPU devices in
>> >> > the cluster to that PM domain. The DT definitions for the SoC describe
>> >> > this relationship. Genpd callbacks for power_on and power_off can then
>> >> > be used to power up/down the shared resources for the domain.
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >> > +ARM CPU Power domains
>> >> > +
>> >> > +The device tree allows describing of CPU power domains in a SoC. In ARM SoC,
>> >> > +CPUs may be grouped as clusters. A cluster may have CPUs, GIC, Coresight,
>> >> > +caches, VFP and power controller and other peripheral hardware. Generally,
>> >> > +when the CPUs in the cluster are idle/suspended, the shared resources may also
>> >> > +be suspended and resumed before any of the CPUs resume execution.
>> >> > +
>> >> > +CPUs are the defined as the PM domain consumers and there is a PM domain
>> >> > +provider for the CPUs. Bindings for generic PM domains (genpd) is described in
>> >> > +[1].
>> >> > +
>> >> > +The ARM CPU PM domain follows the same binding convention as any generic PM
>> >> > +domain. Additional binding properties are -
>> >> > +
>> >> > +- compatible:
>> >> > +       Usage: required
>> >> > +       Value type: <string>
>> >> > +       Definition: Must also have
>> >> > +                       "arm,pd"
>> >> > +               inorder to initialize the genpd provider as ARM CPU PM domain.
>> >>
>> >> A compatible string should represent a particular h/w block. If it is
>> >> generic, it should represent some sort of standard programming
>> >> interface (e.g, AHCI, EHCI, etc.). This doesn't seem to be either and
>> >> is rather just a mapping of what "driver" you want to use.
>> >>
>> >> I would expect that identifying a cpu's or cluster's power domain
>> >> would be done by a phandle between the cpu/cluster node and power
>> >> domain node. But I've not really looked at the power domain bindings
>> >> so who knows.
>> >
>> >I would expect the same, meaning that a cpu node, like any other device
>> >node would have a phandle pointing at the respective HW power domain.
>> >
>> CPUs have phandles to their domains. That is how the relationship
>> between the domain provider (power-controller) and the consumer (CPU) is
>> established.
>>
>> >I do not really understand why we want a "generic" CPU power domain, what
>> >purpose does it serve ? Creating a collection of cpu devices that we
>> >can call "cluster" ?
>> >
>> Nope, not for calling a cluster, a cluster :)
>>
>> This compatible is used to define a generic behavior of the CPU domain
>> controller (in addition to the platform specific behavior of the domain
>> power controller). The kernel activities for such power controller are
>> generally the same which otherwise would be repeated across platforms.
>
>What activities ? CPU PM notifiers ?
>
Yes, for now. May be someday we can get rid of these notifiers and
directly invoke subsystems from these callbacks directly. Kevin proposed
this idea. With little exploration that I have done, I dont have a good
way to do that yet.

I am imagining here (only imagining at this time) that I could tie this
with last man down for cluster idle state determination and call into
cpuidle-PSCI to help compose the composite state id.

Thanks,
Lina

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-04 23:35 [PATCH 0/9] ARM: PM / Domains: Generic PM domains for CPUs/Clusters Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 1/9] PM / Domains: Allocate memory outside domain locks Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:47   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-09-01 12:40   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 2/9] PM / Domains: Remove dev->driver check for runtime PM Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:50   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-13  8:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-14  3:40       ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-14  7:24         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-14 17:19           ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-16  9:24             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-21 21:04               ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-24 19:50                 ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-25  9:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-01 13:28   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 3/9] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 20:12   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-12 20:47     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 23:03   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 4/9] kernel/cpu_pm: fix cpu_cluster_pm_exit comment Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 20:13   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: common: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lina Iyer
2015-08-06  3:14   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-07 23:45     ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-11 13:07       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 15:58         ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-11 20:12           ` Rob Herring
2015-08-11 22:29             ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:00             ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 17:29               ` Rob Herring
2015-08-13 20:12                 ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 22:01                   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-14 14:38                     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:00             ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: domain: Add platform handlers for CPU PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 15:01     ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: common: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-13 15:45       ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 15:52         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-13 16:22           ` Lina Iyer [this message]
2015-08-14  3:51           ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-14  4:02             ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14 15:49             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-14 19:11               ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-13 17:26         ` Sudeep Holla
2015-08-13 19:27           ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14  9:52             ` Sudeep Holla
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 6/9] ARM: domain: Add platform handlers for CPU PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-08-05 14:45   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 16:38     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-05 19:23     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-06  3:01       ` Rob Herring
2015-08-10 15:36         ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM: cpuidle: Add runtime PM support for CPU idle Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 8/9] ARM64: smp: Add runtime PM support for CPU hotplug Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: " Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 20:28   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-12 20:43     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14 18:59       ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-12 23:47   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-08-13 16:00     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 19:18       ` Stephen Boyd

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