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From: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>
Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Ulf Hansson" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozłowski" <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>,
	"Linux PM list" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"msivasub@codeaurora.org" <msivasub@codeaurora.org>,
	"Andy Gross" <agross@codeaurora.org>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] PM / Domains: Remove dev->driver check for runtime PM
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:50:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150824195032.GA1384@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7hio88gxpn.fsf@deeprootsystems.com>

On Fri, Aug 21 2015 at 15:04 -0600, Kevin Hilman wrote:
>Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven
>>> <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>> Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> writes:
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> This check might have made sense before PM domains, but with PM domains,
>>>>>>> it's entirely possible to have a simple device without a driver and the
>>>>>>> PM domain handles all the necesary PM, so I think this check
>>>>>>> could/should be removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simple devices without a driver aren't handled automatically.
>>>>>> At minimum, the driver should call pm_runtime_enable(), cfr.
>>>>>> drivers/bus/simple-pm-bus.c.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's correct, and in the proof-of-concept stuff I hacked up and in
>>>>> Lina's series, the CPU "devices" do indeed to this.  Without that, they
>>>>> wouldn't end up ever taking this codepath through genpd's
>>>>> runtime_suspend and power_off hooks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I'm not sure if your comment was meant to be an objection to the
>>>>> patch?  or if you're OK with it.
>>>>
>>>> My comment was purely meant as a response to "it's entirely possible to have a
>>>> simple device without a driver and the PM domain handles all the necesary PM".
>>>
>>> Right, so if the PM domain does the pm_runtime_enable() for these
>>> "simple" devices without drivers, they can still exist without a
>>> driver, and the PM domain doing all the magic.
>>
>> Is it possible to let the PM Domain do the pm_runtime_enable() itself in
>> the absence of a driver?
>
>Well, I suppose it's possible, not sure it's recommended. :)
>
>> If yes, I wouldn't have needed simple-pm-bus.c.
>> What if a driver is bound later?
>
>Yeah, you're approach is better.
>
I am not sure I understand the approach? Initialize the CPU devices as
"simple-pm-bus" compatible?

Thanks,
Lina

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-24 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-04 23:35 [PATCH 0/9] ARM: PM / Domains: Generic PM domains for CPUs/Clusters Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 1/9] PM / Domains: Allocate memory outside domain locks Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:47   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-09-01 12:40   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 2/9] PM / Domains: Remove dev->driver check for runtime PM Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:50   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-13  8:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-14  3:40       ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-14  7:24         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-14 17:19           ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-16  9:24             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-21 21:04               ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-24 19:50                 ` Lina Iyer [this message]
2015-08-25  9:24                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-01 13:28   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 3/9] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 20:12   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-12 20:47     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 23:03   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 4/9] kernel/cpu_pm: fix cpu_cluster_pm_exit comment Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 20:13   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: common: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lina Iyer
2015-08-06  3:14   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-07 23:45     ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-11 13:07       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-11 15:58         ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-11 20:12           ` Rob Herring
2015-08-11 22:29             ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:00             ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 17:29               ` Rob Herring
2015-08-13 20:12                 ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 22:01                   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-14 14:38                     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 19:00             ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: domain: Add platform handlers for CPU PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 15:01     ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: common: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-13 15:45       ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 15:52         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-13 16:22           ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14  3:51           ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-14  4:02             ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14 15:49             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-08-14 19:11               ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-13 17:26         ` Sudeep Holla
2015-08-13 19:27           ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14  9:52             ` Sudeep Holla
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 6/9] ARM: domain: Add platform handlers for CPU PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-08-05 14:45   ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 16:38     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-05 19:23     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-06  3:01       ` Rob Herring
2015-08-10 15:36         ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM: cpuidle: Add runtime PM support for CPU idle Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 8/9] ARM64: smp: Add runtime PM support for CPU hotplug Lina Iyer
2015-08-04 23:35 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: " Lina Iyer
2015-08-12 20:28   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-12 20:43     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-14 18:59       ` Kevin Hilman
2015-08-12 23:47   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-08-13 16:00     ` Lina Iyer
2015-08-13 19:18       ` Stephen Boyd

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