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From: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] PM / runtime: Add CPU runtime PM suspend/resume api
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:12:33 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151028211233.GA67471@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpcC0TY-5hrv_G+p86wGYsce1TzDjeWNkqJnD5dMU6sSA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 28 2015 at 04:43 -0600, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>On 21 October 2015 at 03:59, Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 19 2015 at 03:44 -0600, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6 October 2015 at 23:57, Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CPU devices that use runtime PM, have the followign characteristics -
>>>>         - Runs in a IRQs disabled context
>>>>         - Every CPU does its own runtime PM
>>>>         - CPUs do not access other CPU's runtime PM
>>>>         - The runtime PM state of the CPU is determined by the CPU
>>>>
>>>> These allow for some interesting optimizations -
>>>>         - The CPUs have a limited runtime PM states
>>>>         - The runtime state of CPU need not be protected by spinlocks
>>>>         - Options like auto-suspend/async are not relevant to CPU
>>>>           devices
>>>>
>>>> A simplified runtime PM would therefore provide all that is needed for
>>>> the CPU devices. After making a quick check for the usage count of the
>>>> CPU devices (to allow for the CPU to not power down the domain), the
>>>> runtime PM could just call the PM callbacks for the CPU devices. Locking
>>>> is also avoided.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's an interesting idea. :-)
>>>
>>> While I need to give it some more thinking for how/if this could fit
>>> into the runtime PM API, let me start by providing some initial
>>> feedback on the patch as such.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
>>>> ---
>>>>  drivers/base/power/runtime.c | 61
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  include/linux/pm_runtime.h   |  3 ++-
>>>>  2 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
>>>> index e1a10a0..5f7512c 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
>>>> @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
>>>>  #include <linux/pm_wakeirq.h>
>>>>  #include <trace/events/rpm.h>
>>>>  #include "power.h"
>>>> +#include <linux/cpu.h>
>>>>
>>>>  typedef int (*pm_callback_t)(struct device *);
>>>>
>>>> @@ -577,6 +578,66 @@ static int rpm_suspend(struct device *dev, int
>>>> rpmflags)
>>>>         goto out;
>>>>  }
>>>>
>>>> +void cpu_pm_runtime_suspend(void)
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you want to return int instead of void.
>>>
>> The outcome of this function would not change the runtime state of the
>> CPU. The void return seems appropriate.
>
>If the runtime PM suspend callbacks returns and error code, will that
>prevent the CPU from going idle?
>
It should not. I dont think runtime PM should fail, because the CPU
determines its own state.

>In other words do you manage idling of the CPU via runtime PM
>callbacks for the CPU idle driver?
>
No.

>If not, don't you need to check a return value from this API to know
>whether it's okay to proceed idling the CPU?
>
>>
>>>> +{
>>>> +       int ret;
>>>> +       int (*callback)(struct device *);
>>>> +       struct device *dev = get_cpu_device(smp_processor_id());
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should follow the other runtime PM APIs and have the struct
>>> *device provided as an in-parameter!?
>>>
>> But that information is can be deduced by this function - the function
>> is called for that CPU from *that* CPU. Also, the absence of an
>> argument, ensures that the caller won't make a mistake of calling any
>> other CPUs runtime PM from a CPU or worse, pass a device that is not a
>> CPU.
>
>Okay! As long as we decide to use the API *only* for CPUs that makes sense.
>
>Although, I was thinking that we perhaps shouldn't limit the use of
>the API to CPUs, but I don't know of any similar devices as of now.
>
>>
>>>> + +       trace_rpm_suspend(dev, 0);
>>>> +
>>>> +       /**
>>>> +        * Use device usage_count to disallow bubbling up suspend.
>>>> +        * This CPU has already decided to suspend, we cannot
>>>> +        * prevent it here.
>>>> +        */
>>>> +       if (!atomic_dec_and_test(&dev->power.usage_count))
>>>> +               return 0;
>>>> +
>>>> +       ret = rpm_check_suspend_allowed(dev);
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think you can use this function. For example it calls
>>> __dev_pm_qos_read_value() which expects the dev->power.lock to be
>>> held.
>>>
>> Right. I realized that. Will fix.
>>
>>>> +       if (ret)
>>>> +               return ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +       __update_runtime_status(dev, RPM_SUSPENDING);
>>>> +
>>>> +       pm_runtime_cancel_pending(dev);
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm. For the same struct device (CPU) could really calls to
>>> cpu_pm_runtime_suspend|resume() happen in parallel? Do we need to
>>> protect against that?
>>>
>> That wouldnt happen, the functions are only called that CPU on that CPU.
>> See the explanation above.
>>
>>> I don't have such in-depth knowledge about CPU idle, so apologize if
>>> this may be a stupid question.
>>>
>>> If the answer to the above is *no*, I believe you don't need to care
>>> about the intermediate RPM_SUSPENDING state and you don't need an
>>> atomic counter either, right!?
>>>
>> This calls into genpd framework, which expects devices to be
>> RPM_SUSPENDING in pm_genpd_power_off; I wanted to keep the behavior
>> between the frameworks consistent.
>
>Okay, it makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.
>
>>
>>
>>> Instead you could then just update the runtime PM status to
>>> RPM_SUSPENDED if the RPM callback doesn't return an error.
>>>
>>>> +       callback = RPM_GET_CALLBACK(dev, runtime_suspend);
>>>> +
>>>> +       ret = callback(dev);
>>>> +       if (!ret)
>>>> +               __update_runtime_status(dev, RPM_SUSPENDED);
>>>> +       else
>>>> +               __update_runtime_status(dev, RPM_ACTIVE);
>>>> +
>>>> +       trace_rpm_return_int(dev, _THIS_IP_, ret);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> +void cpu_pm_runtime_resume(void)
>>>
>
>[...]
>
>Kind regards
>Uffe

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-28 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 21:57 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Simplified runtime PM for CPU devices? Lina Iyer
2015-10-06 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] PM / runtime: Add CPU runtime PM suspend/resume api Lina Iyer
2015-10-19  9:44   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-21  1:59     ` Lina Iyer
2015-10-28 10:43       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-10-28 21:12         ` Lina Iyer [this message]
2015-10-23 21:19   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-10-23 22:13     ` Lina Iyer
2015-10-23 23:46       ` Kevin Hilman
2015-10-28 21:14         ` Lina Iyer
2015-10-06 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] PM / Domains: Atomic counters for domain usage count Lina Iyer

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