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From: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
To: Marc Titinger <mtitinger@baylibre.com>
Cc: "Ulf Hansson" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@linaro.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozłowski" <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>,
	msivasub@codeaurora.org, "Andy Gross" <agross@codeaurora.org>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Axel Haslam" <ahaslam@baylibre.com>,
	"Marc Titinger" <mtitinger+renesas@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 02/27] PM / Domains: Allow domain power states to be read from DT
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 14:36:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151216213618.GA3342@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <566FE652.1030602@baylibre.com>

On Tue, Dec 15 2015 at 03:07 -0700, Marc Titinger wrote:
>On 10/12/2015 17:53, Ulf Hansson wrote:
>>On 17 November 2015 at 23:37, Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org> wrote:

>>>Similarly, devices can register power-states into the cluster domain, in
>>>a manner consistent with idle-states.
>>
>>I don't get this. Can you please elaborate?
>
>
>Alexes addition of "power states" to the power domains was to have a 
>better representation of features of power controllers. For instance 
>QoS may prevent to enter/exit complete power-off, but setting the core 
>voltage to say 0.7v is feasible in terms of timing, and still better 
>than full-power-on etc... Hence the domain has a list of possible 
>states to chose upon, between full power-on and full-power-off, and 
>genpd will call the platform code for this.
>
>Now, this patch maps the idle-states as possible power states for the 
>domain: upon the last CPU runtime_put, the domain can chose the 
>deepest
>state that can be reached given the enter/exit time available, and 
>call the platform code for this. This selected state can be any of:
>* cluster-sleep (power OFF)
>* cluster-retention A (L2RAM retention for instance)
>* cluster-retention B (some device is still on, like PMU or bus 
>analyzer, healthckeck IP etc...)
>...
>* cluster-on, but lower voltage A
>* cluster-on, but lower voltage B
>etc...
>
>Put short: CPUs, like any other devices in the domain may register a 
>power state.
>
>>
>>>
>>>This is a attempt to address device-retention states for devices that
>>>are not hooked to runtime-pm, but feature a retention state handled by
>>>the same firmware that handles idle-states. For instance a L2 caches.
>>
>>I guess whether devices may use runtime PM or not, they still can be
>>attached to a PM domain with multiple power states?
>
>yes.
>
>From what I understand, it seems like you want to have a constraint on a
domain state based on the device's idle state. This seems more like a
job for a governor. You could write a governor that chooses the domain
state based on these dependencies.

I am not sure this can be solved generically without increasing the
complexity of genpd idle states.

Thanks,
Lina

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-16 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-17 22:37 [PATCH RFC 00/27] PM/Domains: Cluster idle support for ARM SoCs Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 01/27] PM / Domains: core changes for multiple states Lina Iyer
2015-12-09 13:58   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-17 17:58     ` Axel Haslam
2015-12-17 21:19       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 02/27] PM / Domains: Allow domain power states to be read from DT Lina Iyer
2015-12-10 16:53   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-15 10:07     ` Marc Titinger
2015-12-15 22:14       ` Lina Iyer
2015-12-16 21:36       ` Lina Iyer [this message]
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 03/27] PM / Domain: Add additional state specific param Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 21:33   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 04/27] PM / Domains: make governor select deepest state Lina Iyer
2015-12-11  9:13   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 05/27] PM / Domains: remove old power on/off latencies Lina Iyer
2015-11-18 14:57   ` [PATCH] ARM: imx6: pm: declare pm domain latency on power_state struct Lina Iyer
2015-11-23 13:31     ` Lucas Stach
2015-11-23 13:42       ` Lucas Stach
2015-12-04 23:19         ` Lina Iyer
2015-12-11  9:16   ` [PATCH RFC 05/27] PM / Domains: remove old power on/off latencies Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 06/27] PM / Domains: add debugfs 'states' and 'timings' seq files Lina Iyer
2015-12-11 11:46   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-16 11:07     ` Marc Titinger
2015-12-16 12:48       ` Ulf Hansson
2015-12-16 14:12         ` Marc Titinger
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 07/27] PM / Domains: Read domain residency from DT Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 20:41   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-12-11 11:54   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 08/27] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains Lina Iyer
2016-01-14 14:42   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-14 18:33     ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-15  8:55       ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-15 16:57         ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-15 22:08           ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-18 16:58             ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-18 17:00               ` Lina Iyer
2016-01-19 10:01               ` Ulf Hansson
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 09/27] PM / Domains: Attempt runtime suspend of IRQ safe parent domain Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 10/27] drivers: power: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 20:52   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 11/27] drivers: cpu: Define CPU devices as IRQ safe Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 12/27] ARM: cpuidle: remove cpu parameter from the cpuidle_ops suspend hook Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 13/27] ARM: cpuidle: Add runtime PM support for CPU idle Lina Iyer
2015-11-18  8:50   ` Zhaoyang Huang
2015-11-18 14:17     ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 22:10   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 14/27] tick: get next wakeup event for the CPU Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 15/27] PM / Domains: Add next_wakeup to device's timing data Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 22:19   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-20 15:58     ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 16/27] ARM: cpuidle: Record the next wakeup event of the CPU Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 23:35   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-20 16:28     ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 18:29       ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 17/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Record CPUs that are part of the domain Lina Iyer
2015-11-24 21:00   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 14:13     ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-25 19:12       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 20:20         ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 18/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Add PM Domain governor for CPUs Lina Iyer
2015-11-18 18:42   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-11-19  8:50     ` Marc Titinger
2015-11-20 17:39       ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 23:52     ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-20 16:21       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-11-20 16:42         ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-20  0:03   ` Kevin Hilman
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 19/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Invoke CPU PM runtime on hotplug Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 20/27] Documentation: ARM: topology: 'cluster' property for cluster nodes Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 21/27] drivers: cpu-pd: Parse topology to setup CPU PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-12-07 14:54   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-12-08 18:05     ` Lina Iyer
2015-12-10 18:11       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-12-11  9:04         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-12-11 20:51           ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 22/27] drivers: firmware: PSCI: Export psci_has_ext_power_state() Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 23/27] ARM64: psci: Support cluster idle states for OS-Initated Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 24/27] arm64: dts: Add Qualcomm MSM8916, MTP8916, APQ8016, SBC8016 ids Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 25/27] devicetree: bindings: Document qcom,msm-id and qcom,board-id Lina Iyer
2015-11-19 14:36   ` Rob Herring
2015-11-19 15:36     ` Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 26/27] ARM64: dts: Add PSCI cpuidle support for MSM8916 Lina Iyer
2015-11-17 22:37 ` [PATCH RFC 27/27] ARM64: dts: Define CPU power domain " Lina Iyer

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