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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, edubezval@gmail.com,
	grygorii.strashko@ti.com, nm@ti.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, joel@jms.id.au,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, dyoung@redhat.com, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] reboot: Backup orderly_poweroff
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:05:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160114090520.GA4351@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1452688405-15087-1-git-send-email-j-keerthy@ti.com>


* Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com> wrote:

> orderly_poweroff is triggered when a graceful shutdown
> of system is desired. This may be used in many critical states of the
> kernel such as when subsystems detects conditions such as critical
> temperature conditions. However, in certain conditions in system
> boot up sequences like those in the middle of driver probes being
> initiated, userspace will be unable to power off the system in a clean
> manner and leaves the system in a critical state. In cases like these,
> the /sbin/poweroff will return success (having forked off to attempt
> powering off the system. However, the system overall will fail to
> completely poweroff (since other modules will be probed) and the system
> is still functional with no userspace (since that would have shut itself
> off).
> 
> However, there is no clean way of detecting such failure of userspace
> powering off the system. In such scenarios, it is necessary for a backup
> workqueue to be able to force a shutdown of the system when orderly
> shutdown is not successful after a configurable time period.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com>
> Suggested-by: Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com> 
> Reported-by: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
> ---
> Links to previous discussion can be found here:
> 
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-omap/msg124925.html
> 
> Boot tested on DRA7.
> 
> changes in v2:
> 
> 	* Changed #ifdef to #if CONFIG_SHUTDOWN_BACKUP_DELAY_MS
> 
>  arch/Kconfig    |  7 +++++++
>  kernel/reboot.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++-----
>  2 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> Index: linux/arch/Kconfig
> ===================================================================
> --- linux.orig/arch/Kconfig	2016-01-11 15:26:07.732173131 +0530
> +++ linux/arch/Kconfig	2016-01-11 15:26:07.728173205 +0530
> @@ -37,6 +37,18 @@
>  	def_bool y
>  	depends on PERF_EVENTS && HAVE_PERF_EVENTS_NMI && !PPC64
>  
> +config SHUTDOWN_BACKUP_DELAY_MS
> +	int "Backup shutdown delay in milli-seconds"
> +	default 0
> +	help
> +	  The number of milliseconds to delay before backup workqueue
> +	  executes attempting to poweroff the system after the
> +	  orderly_poweroff function has failed to complete.
> +
> +	  If set to 0, the backup workqueue is not active. The value
> +	  should be conservatively configured based on userspace latencies
> +	  expected for a given system.

I don't really understand this. In what circumstances can a reboot fail?

I think that is what should be fixed: a reboot should never fail, instead of 
introducing some sort of fragile timeout based method.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-14  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-13 12:33 [PATCH v2] reboot: Backup orderly_poweroff Keerthy
2016-01-14  9:05 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-01-14  9:18   ` Keerthy
2016-01-14 10:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-14 10:42       ` Keerthy
2016-01-14 11:23         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-14 13:25           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-15 10:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-15 13:29               ` Grygorii Strashko
2016-01-15 14:12                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-01-19  9:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-19 10:32                   ` Keerthy
2016-01-14 14:22           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-01-15 10:13             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-15 11:05               ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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