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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:10:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160205191042.GT19432@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFoawbrj3w_+2p5ugjByrwxwmA1S2God1VAvkRbh2rUtjg@mail.gmail.com>

* Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> [160204 22:55]:
> On 5 February 2016 at 02:08, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com> wrote:
> > * Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> [160204 14:35]:
> >> On 4 February 2016 at 23:09, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 4 Feb 2016, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I am really not questioning the autosuspend feature at all, it's a
> >> >> really great feature!
> >> >>
> >> >> Now, I question the minor benefit we actually gain from having the
> >> >> runtime PM core to update the mark in rpm_resume().
> >> >
> >> > As Tony pointed out, it prevents some devices from going to sleep right
> >> > away.
> >>
> >> Because their drivers don't care to update the last busy mark!?
> >
> > Nope. Without that devices may never resume at all so the drivers
> > can't do anything about it.
> 
> I don't get it. Why not? Because of another abuse of the runtime PM API?

I think you should be able to test this case in your test driver by
calling pm_runtime_resume() for your test driver after your
test drive has autosuspended. Probably you need some delayed_work to
do this in your test driver unless you have some test bus to go with it.

> Or we should probably continue to focus on fixing the regression. :-)

Naturally we should fix up things yeah :) Having a test driver
that works on any architecture sure makes things easier to verify.

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-05 19:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-26 22:48 PM regression with commit 5de85b9d57ab PM runtime re-init in v4.5-rc1 Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:50 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:22   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:37     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-26 23:52       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27  7:54         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-27  8:17           ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-27 15:19             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-27 22:51             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-01-28 14:29         ` Ulf Hansson
2016-01-28 16:58           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 16:44             ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-01 18:11               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:06                 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:17                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 22:29                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:10                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-01 23:28                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:44                           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 23:49                           ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02  3:05                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 10:07                               ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 10:42                                 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 16:23                                   ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:35                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 20:47                                     ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 23:41                                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 10:23                                         ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 10:25                                           ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 12:18                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 14:58                                               ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 15:45                                                 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 16:09                                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 16:24                                                     ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 17:01                                                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:16                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:27                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:02                                             ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:28                                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 18:37                                                 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-03 18:45                                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 21:51                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 16:15                                 ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 16:49                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:05                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 18:43                                       ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 18:54                                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 19:16                                           ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:03                                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 21:45                                               ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 23:46                                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 13:06                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:36                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 15:48                                                   ` Alan Stern
2016-02-03 16:37                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:18                                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 17:22                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 17:27                                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-04 10:20                                                     ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 16:04                                                       ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 17:20                                                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-04 21:11                                                         ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-04 22:09                                                           ` Alan Stern
2016-02-04 22:34                                                             ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05  1:08                                                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-05  6:54                                                                 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-05 19:10                                                                   ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2016-02-02 18:47                                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-02 20:24                                   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-02-02 21:24                                     ` Alan Stern
2016-02-02 21:39                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-03 13:03                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-02-03 16:49                                         ` Tony Lindgren

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