From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Steve Muckle <steve.muckle@linaro.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 11:26:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160304112639.GD4061@e106622-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4627718.FT18d2LR5p@vostro.rjw.lan>
Hi Rafael,
On 04/03/16 04:35, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
>
> Add a new cpufreq scaling governor, called "schedutil", that uses
> scheduler-provided CPU utilization information as input for making
> its decisions.
>
> Doing that is possible after commit fe7034338ba0 (cpufreq: Add
> mechanism for registering utilization update callbacks) that
> introduced cpufreq_update_util() called by the scheduler on
> utilization changes (from CFS) and RT/DL task status updates.
> In particular, CPU frequency scaling decisions may be based on
> the the utilization data passed to cpufreq_update_util() by CFS.
>
> The new governor is relatively simple.
>
> The frequency selection formula used by it is
>
> next_freq = util * max_freq / max
>
> where util and max are the utilization and CPU capacity coming from CFS.
>
The formula looks better to me now. However, problem is that, if you
have freq. invariance, util will slowly saturate to the current
capacity. So, we won't trigger OPP changes for a task that for example
starts light and then becomes big.
This is the same problem we faced with schedfreq. The current solution
there is to use a margin for calculating a threshold (80% of current
capacity ATM). Once util goes above that threshold we trigger an OPP
change. Current policy is pretty aggressive, we go to max_f and then
adapt to the "real" util during successive enqueues. This was also
tought to cope with the fact that PELT seems slow to react to abrupt
changes in tasks behaviour.
I'm not saying this is the definitive solution, but I fear something
along this line is needed when you add freq invariance in the mix.
Best,
- Juri
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-04 11:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-02 1:56 [PATCH 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil governor Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-02 2:04 ` [PATCH 1/6] cpufreq: Reduce cpufreq_update_util() overhead a bit Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 5:48 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-03 11:47 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-03 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-02 2:05 ` [PATCH 2/6][Resend] cpufreq: acpi-cpufreq: Make read and write operations more efficient Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-02 2:08 ` [PATCH 3/6] cpufreq: governor: New data type for management part of dbs_data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 5:53 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-03 19:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 5:49 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-02 2:10 ` [PATCH 4/6] cpufreq: governor: Move abstract gov_tunables code to a seperate file Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 6:03 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-02 2:12 ` [PATCH 5/6] cpufreq: Support for fast frequency switching Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 6:00 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-04 2:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 20:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 21:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 11:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 19:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-02 2:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-02 17:10 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-02 17:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-02 22:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 12:32 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-03 16:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 16:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 16:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-04 1:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 16:55 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-03 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 17:14 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-03 14:01 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-03 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 16:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 17:28 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-03 18:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 19:14 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2016-03-08 13:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-03 18:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 13:07 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-03 20:06 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-03 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-03 21:37 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-07 2:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 11:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-08 18:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 19:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-08 20:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 10:15 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-09 23:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-10 4:30 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-10 21:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-10 23:19 ` Michael Turquette
2016-03-09 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-09 23:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-10 3:44 ` Vincent Guittot
2016-03-10 10:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-10 10:26 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKfTPtCbjgbJn+68NJPCnmPFtcHD0wGmZRYaw37zSqPXNpo_Uw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-10 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-10 10:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-10 22:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-10 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-04 2:56 ` [PATCH v2 0/10] cpufreq: schedutil governor Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 2:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/10] cpufreq: Reduce cpufreq_update_util() overhead a bit Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-09 14:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 15:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-09 21:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-10 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-04 2:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/10][Resend] cpufreq: acpi-cpufreq: Make read and write operations more efficient Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 3:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/10] cpufreq: governor: New data type for management part of dbs_data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 5:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-04 3:03 ` [PATCH v2 4/10] cpufreq: governor: Move abstract gov_attr_set code to seperate file Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 5:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-04 3:05 ` [PATCH v2 5/10] cpufreq: Move governor attribute set headers to cpufreq.h Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 5:53 ` Viresh Kumar
2016-03-04 3:07 ` [PATCH v2 6/10] cpufreq: Support for fast frequency switching Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 22:18 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-04 22:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 23:56 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-05 0:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-05 11:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-03-05 16:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-06 2:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-07 8:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-07 13:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-07 13:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-07 13:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 22:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 23:59 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-04 3:12 ` [PATCH v2 7/10] cpufreq: Rework the scheduler hooks for triggering updates Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 3:14 ` [PATCH v2 8/10] cpufreq: Move scheduler-related code to the sched directory Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 3:18 ` [PATCH v2 9/10] cpufreq: sched: Re-introduce cpufreq_update_util() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 10:50 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-04 12:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 13:30 ` [PATCH v3 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 21:21 ` Steve Muckle
2016-03-04 21:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 3:35 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 11:26 ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2016-03-04 13:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-04 15:56 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2016-03-08 2:23 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] cpufreq: schedutil governor Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/7][Resend] cpufreq: Rework the scheduler hooks for triggering updates Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-09 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-09 14:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:26 ` [PATCH v3 2/7][Resend] cpufreq: Move scheduler-related code to the sched directory Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/7][Resend] cpufreq: governor: New data type for management part of dbs_data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/7][Resend] cpufreq: governor: Move abstract gov_attr_set code to seperate file Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:38 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] cpufreq: Support for fast frequency switching Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:41 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] cpufreq: sched: Re-introduce cpufreq_update_util() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-08 2:50 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:41 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] cpufreq: schedutil governor Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:43 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] cpufreq: sched: Helpers to add and remove update_util hooks Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:44 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] cpufreq: governor: New data type for management part of dbs_data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:45 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] cpufreq: governor: Move abstract gov_attr_set code to seperate file Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:46 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] cpufreq: Move governor attribute set headers to cpufreq.h Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:47 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] cpufreq: Move governor symbols " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:52 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] cpufreq: Support for fast frequency switching Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 16:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 15:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 16:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 14:59 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 17:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 21:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 17:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 21:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 17:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 22:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 17:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 18:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 22:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 15:27 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] cpufreq: schedutil governor Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-16 16:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-16 23:51 ` [PATCH v5 6/7][Update] cpufreq: Support for fast frequency switching Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-17 11:35 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-17 11:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 11:48 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-17 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-17 0:01 ` [PATCH v5 7/7][Update] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-17 11:30 ` Juri Lelli
2016-03-17 12:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-17 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 12:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-17 15:54 ` [PATCH v6 6/7][Update] cpufreq: Support for fast frequency switching Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-17 16:01 ` [PATCH v6 7/7][Update] cpufreq: schedutil: New governor based on scheduler utilization data Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-18 12:34 ` Patrick Bellasi
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