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From: Peter Chen <hzpeterchen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 01/14] regulator: of: Add helper for getting all supplies
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:44:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160613034416.GD32615@shlinux2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160612072901.GD22054@shlinux2>

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 03:29:01PM +0800, Peter Chen wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:30:56PM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 01:42:02PM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > On 06/09/2016 12:29 PM, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 11:44:18AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > >> Few drivers have a need of getting regulator supplies without knowing
> > > >> their names:
> > > >> 1. The Simple Framebuffer driver works on setup provided by bootloader
> > > >>    (outside of scope of kernel);
> > > >> 2. Generic power sequence driver may be attached to any device node.
> > > >>
> > > >> Add a Device Tree helper for parsing "-supply" properties and returning
> > > >> allocated bulk regulator consumers.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm still very concerned that this is just an invitation to people to
> > > > write half baked regulator consumers and half baked DTs to go along with
> > > > it, making it a standard API that doesn't have big red flags on it that
> > > > will flag up when "normal" drivers use it is not good.  Right now this
> > > > just looks like a standard API and people are going to just start using
> > > > it.  If we are going to do this perhaps we need a separate header or
> > > > something to help flag this up.
> > > 
> > > No problem, I can move it to a special header.  Actually, if you dislike
> > > this as an API, it does not have to be in header at all.  I can just
> > > duplicate the simplefb code.
> > > 
> > > > In the case of power sequences I'd expect the sequences to perform
> > > > operations on named supplies - the core shouldn't know what the supplies
> > > > are but the thing specifying the sequence should.
> > > 
> > > Hm, so maybe passing names like:
> > > 
> > > usb3503@08 {
> > > 	reset-gpios = <&gpx3 5 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> > > 	initial-mode = <1>;
> > > 	vdd-supply = <&buck8_reg>;
> > > 	foo-supply = <&buck9_reg>;
> > > 
> > >         power-sequence;
> > > 	power-sequence-supplies = "vdd", "foo";
> > 
> > This alone would be fine as it is just one property, but then what's 
> > next? power-sequence-delay, power-sequence-clocks, etc. What if you 
> > need to express ordering relationship of supplies, clocks, gpios? We end 
> > up with a scripting language in DT and we don't want to have that.
> > 
> 
> Can we do things like below:
> 
> - DT describes hardware elements (clock, gpios, etc) for power sequence, and we
> need a node for power sequence.
> - Power sequence framework handles getting hardware elements.

Framework may do few things, since hardware elements are also different
for devices.

> - Power sequence platform driver handles special sequence for devices,
> and we can create some generic drivers for generic devices.
> 

So, my suggestion is do like mmc does (like this patch set does). The
reasons like belows:

- This piece of power sequence code needs to work like device driver, not
library, it is easy to manage resources using device driver.
- The device on the bus has still not been found, so this piece of code
can't be in device driver on each subsystem.
- We need to have a place for these power sequences drivers

Ideally, I hope it can work like regulator class, but it seems hard to
compatible with current mmc-pwrseq DT node.

-- 

Best Regards,
Peter Chen
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-13  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-09  9:44 [RFC v4 00/14] usb/mmc/power: Generic power sequence (and fix USB/LAN when TFTP booting) Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 01/14] regulator: of: Add helper for getting all supplies Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09 10:29   ` Mark Brown
2016-06-09 11:42     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-10 17:30       ` Rob Herring
2016-06-10 18:49         ` Heiko Stübner
2016-06-12  7:29         ` Peter Chen
2016-06-13  3:44           ` Peter Chen [this message]
2016-06-09 12:50     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <CAJZ5v0hiyyOhU7AjOEjFHjTKhT+pqWZheUG77c6u2HV9dNQ0Gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-09 15:57         ` Mark Brown
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 02/14] simplefb: Use new devm_of_regulator_all_get helper and bulk API Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 03/14] power/mmc: Move pwrseq drivers to power/pwrseq Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 04/14] MAINTAINERS: Retain Ulf Hansson as the same maintainer of pwrseq Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 05/14] power: pwrseq: Enable COMPILE_TEST for drivers Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found] ` <1465465471-28740-1-git-send-email-k.kozlowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-09  9:44   ` [RFC v4 06/14] power: pwrseq: Remove mmc prefix from mmc_pwrseq Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 07/14] power: pwrseq: Generalize mmc_pwrseq operations by removing mmc prefix Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 08/14] power: pwrseq: simple: Add support for regulators and generic property Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 09/14] power: pwrseq: Add support for USB hubs with external power Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 10/14] usb: hub: Handle deferred probe Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 11/14] EXAMPLE CODE: usb: port: Parse pwrseq phandle from Device Tree Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 12/14] EXAMPLE CODE: usb: hub: Power sequence the ports on activation Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 13/14] ARM: dts: exynos: Switch the buck8 to GPIO mode on Odroid U3 Krzysztof Kozlowski
2016-06-09  9:44 ` [RFC v4 14/14] ARM: dts: exynos: Fix LAN and HUB after bootloader initialization " Krzysztof Kozlowski

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