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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Cc: Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Juri Lelli <Juri.Lelli@arm.com>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
	John Ettedgui <john.ettedgui@gmail.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix selection algorithm while reducing frequency
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 09:14:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170612034420.GD5297@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJWu+oomeeyCaz_zXQRGgz+yB59AANnrMLtXV8Lu+n=UvMhkcA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10-06-17, 23:21, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 2:11 AM, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:15 AM, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> While reducing frequency if there are no frequencies available between
> >> "current" and "next" calculated frequency, then the core will never
> >> select the "next" frequency.
> >>
> >> For example, consider the possible range of frequencies as 900 MHz, 1
> >> GHz, 1.1 GHz, and 1.2 GHz. If the current frequency is 1.1 GHz and the
> >> next frequency (based on current utilization) is 1 GHz, then the
> >> schedutil governor will try to set the average of these as the next
> >> frequency (i.e. 1.05 GHz).
> >>
> >> Because we always try to find the lowest frequency greater than equal to
> >> the target frequency, cpufreq_driver_resolve_freq() will end up
> >> returning 1.1 GHz only. And we will not be able to reduce the frequency
> >> eventually. The worst hit is the policy->min frequency as that will
> >> never get selected after the frequency is increased once.
> >
> > But once utilization goes to 0, it will select the min frequency
> > (because it selects lowest frequency >= target)?
> 
> Never mind my comment about util 0, I see the problem you mention.
> However I feel that this entire series adds complexity all to handle
> the case of a false cache-miss which I think might not be that bad,
> and the tradeoff with complexity/readability of the code kind of
> negates the benefit. That's just my opinion about it fwiw.

Right and that's why I said in the cover letter that we may want to revert the
offending commit for the time being as the solutions provided here have too much
dependency on the resolve_freq() callback.

-- 
viresh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-12  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-09 10:15 [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix 4.12 regressions Viresh Kumar
2017-06-09 10:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] cpufreq: schedutil: Restore cached_raw_freq behavior Viresh Kumar
2017-06-09 10:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix selection algorithm while reducing frequency Viresh Kumar
2017-06-10  9:11   ` Joel Fernandes
2017-06-11  6:21     ` Joel Fernandes
2017-06-12  3:44       ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2017-06-12 12:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-09 10:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Provide resolve_freq() to fix regression Viresh Kumar
2017-06-10  9:26   ` Joel Fernandes
2017-06-12  3:41     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-06-09 12:24 ` [PATCH 0/3] cpufreq: schedutil: Fix 4.12 regressions Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-06-09 12:32   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-06-09 13:25     ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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