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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
Cc: Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] cpufreq: governor: Drop min_sampling_rate
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 09:04:25 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170630033425.GU29665@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170629180123.GA2443@light.dominikbrodowski.net>

On 29-06-17, 20:01, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 04:29:06PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > The cpufreq core and governors aren't supposed to set a limit on how
> > fast we want to try changing the frequency. This is currently done for
> > the legacy governors with help of min_sampling_rate.
> > 
> > At worst, we may end up setting the sampling rate to a value lower than
> > the rate at which frequency can be changed and then one of the CPUs in
> > the policy will be only changing frequency for ever.
> 
> Is it safe to issue requests to change the CPU frequency so frequently,

Well, I assumed so. I am not sure the hardware would break though.
Overheating ?

> even
> on historic hardware such as speedstep-{ich,smi,centrino}? In the past,
> these checks more or less disallowed the running of dynamic frequency
> scaling at least on speedstep-smi[*],

We must by doing dynamic freq scaling even without this patch. I don't
see why you say the above then.

All we do here is that we get rid of the limit on how soon we can
change the freq again.

> but maybe on a few other platforms as
> well. That's why I am curious on whether this may break systems potentially
> on a hardware level if the hardware was not designed to do dynamic frequency
> scaling (and not just frequency switches on battery/AC).

Honestly I am not sure if any hardware can break or not, just because
of this commit.

-- 
viresh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-30  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-29 10:59 [PATCH 0/6] cpufreq: transition-latency cleanups Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 1/6] cpufreq: Don't check for max_transition_latency Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 2/6] cpufreq: Remove (now) unused code related to max_transition_latency Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 3/6] cpufreq: governor: Drop min_sampling_rate Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 18:01   ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-06-30  3:34     ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2017-06-30  4:53       ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-06-30  5:40         ` Viresh Kumar
2017-07-02  7:23           ` Dominik Brodowski
2017-06-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 4/6] cpufreq: Use transition_delay_us for legacy governors as well Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 5/6] cpufreq: Cap the default transition delay value to 10 ms Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 10:59 ` [PATCH 6/6] cpufreq: arm_big_little: Make ->get_transition_latency() mandatory Viresh Kumar
2017-06-29 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/6] cpufreq: transition-latency cleanups Rafael J. Wysocki

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