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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	luca.abeni@santannapisa.it, claudio@evidence.eu.com,
	tommaso.cucinotta@santannapisa.it, bristot@redhat.com,
	mathieu.poirier@linaro.org, tkjos@android.com, joelaf@google.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	alessio.balsini@arm.com, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: make use of DEADLINE utilization signal
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:40:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171205164028.GG15085@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171205163409.GN31247@e110439-lin>

On 05/12/17 16:34, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> On 05-Dec 16:24, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > On 05/12/17 15:09, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > +	/*
> > > > +	 * Ideally we would like to set util_dl as min/guaranteed freq and
> > > > +	 * util_cfs + util_dl as requested freq. However, cpufreq is not yet
> > > > +	 * ready for such an interface. So, we only do the latter for now.
> > > > +	 */
> > > 
> > > Maybe I don't completely get the above comment, but to me it is not
> > > really required.
> > > 
> > > When you say that "util_dl" should be set to a min/guaranteed freq
> > > are you not actually talking about a DL implementation detail?
> > > 
> > > From the cpufreq standpoint instead, we should always set a capacity
> > > which can accommodate util_dl + util_cfs.
> > 
> > It's more for platforms which supports such combination of values for
> > frequency requests (CPPC like, AFAIU). The idea being that util_dl is
> > what the system has to always guarantee, but it could go up to the sum
> > if feasible.
> 
> I see, you mean for systems where you can specify both values at the
> same time, i.e.
> - please give me util_dl...
> - ... but if you have more beer, I would like util_dl + util_cfs
> 
> However, I'm not an expert, on those systems can we really set a
> minimum guaranteed performance level?

This is my current understanding. Never played with such platforms
myself. :)

Best,

- Juri

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-05 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-04 10:23 [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] SCHED_DEADLINE freq/cpu invariance and OPP selection Juri Lelli
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: make use of DEADLINE utilization signal Juri Lelli
2017-12-05 15:09   ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-05 15:24     ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-05 16:34       ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-05 16:40         ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2017-12-20 12:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] sched/deadline: move cpu frequency selection triggering points Juri Lelli
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: make worker kthread be SCHED_DEADLINE Juri Lelli
2017-12-05 11:55   ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-05 12:34     ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-20 12:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: split utilization signals Juri Lelli
2017-12-05 15:17   ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-05 15:26     ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: always consider all CPUs when deciding next freq Juri Lelli
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] sched/sched.h: remove sd arch_scale_freq_capacity parameter Juri Lelli
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] sched/sched.h: move arch_scale_{freq,cpu}_capacity outside CONFIG_SMP Juri Lelli
2017-12-04 10:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] sched/deadline: make bandwidth enforcement scale-invariant Juri Lelli

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