From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 15:22:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171215152225.GD19821@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171215140751.3ajilhsmj4zhzhzy@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 15-Dec 15:07, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 02:02:18PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 13-Dec 17:05, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:10:16PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > + if (cfs_rq->nr_running > 0) {
> > > > + util_est = cfs_rq->util_est_runnable;
> > > > + util_est -= task_util_est(p);
> > > > + if (util_est < 0)
> > > > + util_est = 0;
> > > > + cfs_rq->util_est_runnable = util_est;
> > > > + } else {
> > >
> > > I'm thinking that's an explicit load-store to avoid intermediate values
> > > landing in cfs_rq->util_esp_runnable, right?
> >
> > Was mainly to have an unsigned util_est for the following "sub"...
> >
> >
> > > That would need READ_ONCE() / WRITE_ONCE() I think, without that the
> > > compiler is free to munge the lot together.
> >
> > ... do we still need the {READ,WRITE}_ONCE() in this case?
> > I guess adding them however does not hurts.
>
This is just to better understand....
> I think the compiler is free to munge it into something like:
>
> cfs_rq->util_est_runnable -= task_util_est();
> if (cfs_rq->util_est_runnable < 0)
> cfs_rq->util_est_runnable = 0
>
I'm still confused, we have:
long util_est
unsigned long cfs_rq->util_est_runnable
The optimization above can potentially generate an overflow, isn't it?
> and its a fairly simple optimization at that, it just needs to observe
> that util_est is an alias for cfs_rq->util_est_runnable.
Since the first is signed and the last unsigned, can the compiler still
considered them an alias?
At least on ARM I would expect a load of an unsigned value, some
computations on "signed registers", and finally a store of an unsigned
value. This is what I get:
if (cfs_rq->nr_running > 0) {
51e4: 91020000 add x0, x0, #0x80
51e8: b9401802 ldr w2, [x0,#24]
51ec: 340004a2 cbz w2, 5280 <dequeue_task_fair+0xb20>
// skip branch for nr_running == 0
return max(p->util_est.ewma, p->util_est.last);
51f0: f9403ba2 ldr x2, [x29,#112]
51f4: f9418044 ldr x4, [x2,#768]
51f8: f9418443 ldr x3, [x2,#776]
// x3 := p->util_est.ewma
// x4 := p->util_est.last
util_est -= task_util_est(p);
51fc: f9405002 ldr x2, [x0,#160]
// x2 := cfs_rq->util_est_runnable
return max(p->util_est.ewma, p->util_est.last);
5200: eb04007f cmp x3, x4
5204: 9a842063 csel x3, x3, x4, cs
// x3 := task_util_est(p) := max(p->util_est.ewma, p->util_est.last)
cfs_rq->util_est_runnable = util_est;
5208: eb030042 subs x2, x2, x3
// x2 := util_est -= task_util_est(p);
520c: 9a9f5042 csel x2, x2, xzr, pl
// x2 := max(0, util_est)
5210: f9005002 str x2, [x0,#160]
// store back into cfs_rq->util_est_runnable
And by adding {READ,WRITE}_ONCE I still get the same code.
While, compiling for x86, I get two different versions, here is
the one without {READ,WRITE}_ONCE:
if (cfs_rq->nr_running > 0) {
3e3e: 8b 90 98 00 00 00 mov 0x98(%rax),%edx
3e44: 85 d2 test %edx,%edx
3e46: 0f 84 e0 00 00 00 je 3f2c <dequeue_task_fair+0xf9c>
util_est = cfs_rq->util_est_runnable;
util_est -= task_util_est(p);
3e4c: 48 8b 74 24 28 mov 0x28(%rsp),%rsi
3e51: 48 8b 96 80 02 00 00 mov 0x280(%rsi),%rdx
3e58: 48 39 96 88 02 00 00 cmp %rdx,0x288(%rsi)
3e5f: 48 0f 43 96 88 02 00 cmovae 0x288(%rsi),%rdx
3e66: 00
if (util_est < 0)
util_est = 0;
cfs_rq->util_est_runnable = util_est;
3e67: 48 8b b0 20 01 00 00 mov 0x120(%rax),%rsi
3e6e: 48 29 d6 sub %rdx,%rsi
3e71: 48 89 f2 mov %rsi,%rdx
3e74: be 00 00 00 00 mov $0x0,%esi
3e79: 48 0f 48 d6 cmovs %rsi,%rdx
3e7d: 48 89 90 20 01 00 00 mov %rdx,0x120(%rax)
but I'm not confident on "parsing it"...
> Using the volatile load/store completely destroys that optimization
> though, so yes, I'd say its definitely needed.
Ok, since it's definitively not harmful, I'll add it.
--
#include <best/regards.h>
Patrick Bellasi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-15 15:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-05 17:10 [PATCH v2 0/4] Utilization estimation (util_est) for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-05 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sched/fair: always used unsigned long for utilization Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-06 8:56 ` Vincent Guittot
2017-12-05 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-13 16:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-15 14:02 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-15 14:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-15 15:22 ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2017-12-13 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-15 12:14 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-15 12:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-15 15:41 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-20 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 16:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 16:36 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-13 17:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-15 12:03 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-15 12:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-05 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] sched/fair: use util_est in LB and WU paths Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-05 17:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: use util_est for OPP selection Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-16 2:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-18 10:48 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-13 16:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Utilization estimation (util_est) for FAIR tasks Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13 16:23 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-13 17:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-12-15 16:13 ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-15 20:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-12-16 6:37 ` Mike Galbraith
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