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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/6] cpufreq: schedutil: reset sg_cpus's flags at IDLE enter
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:51:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171220145136.GK19821@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171220143344.o2kjuzvrnfghtjej@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 20-Dec 15:33, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 11:47:18AM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > Currently, sg_cpu's flags are set to the value defined by the last call
> > of the cpufreq_update_util(); for RT/DL classes this corresponds to the
> > SCHED_CPUFREQ_{RT/DL} flags always being set.
> > 
> > When multiple CPUs share the same frequency domain it might happen that
> > a CPU which executed an RT task, right before entering IDLE, has one of
> > the SCHED_CPUFREQ_RT_DL flags set, permanently, until it exits IDLE.
> > 
> > Although such an idle CPU is _going to be_ ignored by the
> > sugov_next_freq_shared():
> >   1. this kind of "useless RT requests" are ignored only if more then
> >      TICK_NSEC have elapsed since the last update
> >   2. we can still potentially trigger an already too late switch to
> >      MAX, which starts also a new throttling interval
> >   3. the internal state machine is not consistent with what the
> >      scheduler knows, i.e. the CPU is now actually idle
> 
> So I _really_ hate having to clutter the idle path for this shared case
> :/

:)

We would like to have per-CPU frequency domains... but the HW guys
always complain that's too costly from an HW/power standpoint...
and they are likely right :-/

So, here are are just at trying hard to have a SW status matching
the HW status... which is just another pain :-/

> 1, can obviously be fixed by short-circuiting the timeout when idle.

Mmm.. right... it should be possible for schedutil to detect that a
certain CPU is currently idle.

Can we use core.c::idle_cpu() from cpufreq_schedutil?

> 2. not sure how if you do 1; anybody doing a switch will go through
>    sugov_next_freq_shared() which will poll all relevant CPUs and per 1
>    will see its idle, no?

Right, that should work...

> Not sure what that leaves for 3.

When a CPU is detected idle, perhaps we can still clear the RT flags...
... just for "consistency" of current status representation.

> 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/idle_task.c b/kernel/sched/idle_task.c
> > index d518664cce4f..6e8ae2aa7a13 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/idle_task.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/idle_task.c
> > @@ -30,6 +30,10 @@ pick_next_task_idle(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *prev, struct rq_flags *rf
> >  	put_prev_task(rq, prev);
> >  	update_idle_core(rq);
> >  	schedstat_inc(rq->sched_goidle);
> > +
> > +	/* kick cpufreq (see the comment in kernel/sched/sched.h). */
> > +	cpufreq_update_util(rq, SCHED_CPUFREQ_IDLE);
> > +
> >  	return rq->idle;
> >  }
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.14.1
> > 

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-20 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-30 11:47 [PATCH v3 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil: fixes for flags updates Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] cpufreq: schedutil: reset sg_cpus's flags at IDLE enter Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:12   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:41     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:02       ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 16:19         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:45           ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-07  5:01   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 12:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-07 15:55       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2017-12-12 11:37       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-12 13:38         ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-12 14:40           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-12 14:56             ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-12 15:18               ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-12 15:16         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-13  9:06           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-20 14:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 14:51     ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] cpufreq: schedutil: ensure max frequency while running RT/DL tasks Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:17   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:45     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:03       ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-07  5:05   ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 14:18     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] cpufreq: schedutil: update CFS util only if used Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:22   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:57     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-07  5:15       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 14:19         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-14  4:45           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] sched/rt: fast switch to maximum frequency when RT tasks are scheduled Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:28   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-06  9:39   ` Vincent Guittot
2017-12-06 11:38     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-06 12:36       ` Vincent Guittot
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] cpufreq: schedutil: relax rate-limiting while running RT/DL tasks Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:36   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 15:54     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:06       ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] cpufreq: schedutil: ignore sugov kthreads Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 13:41   ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 16:02     ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-11-30 16:12       ` Juri Lelli
2017-11-30 16:42         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-07  9:24           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-07 15:47             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-20 15:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] cpufreq: schedutil: fixes for flags updates Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 15:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-21  9:15     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-21 10:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-21 10:30         ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-21 10:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-21 10:43             ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-22  8:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 15:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-31  9:43     ` Claudio Scordino
2018-01-02 13:31       ` Claudio Scordino
2017-12-20 17:38   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-20 18:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 10:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 11:02       ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 11:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:07           ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:14             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 12:22               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:07           ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 12:19             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:27               ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:38               ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 12:43                 ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:50                   ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-22 13:01                     ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-22 12:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-22 12:25             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-21  7:34   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-02-06 10:55   ` Claudio Scordino
2018-02-06 15:43     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-06 18:14       ` Claudio Scordino
2018-02-06 18:36         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-08 16:14           ` Claudio Scordino

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