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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] sched/fair: use util_est in LB and WU paths
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:32:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180131153223.GD5739@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180125143358.GE30677@codeaurora.org>

On 25-Jan 20:03, Pavan Kondeti wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 07:31:38PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > 
> > > > +       /*
> > > > +        * These are the main cases covered:
> > > > +        * - if *p is the only task sleeping on this CPU, then:
> > > > +        *      cpu_util (== task_util) > util_est (== 0)
> > > > +        *   and thus we return:
> > > > +        *      cpu_util_wake = (cpu_util - task_util) = 0
> > > > +        *
> > > > +        * - if other tasks are SLEEPING on the same CPU, which is just waking
> > > > +        *   up, then:
> > > > +        *      cpu_util >= task_util
> > > > +        *      cpu_util > util_est (== 0)
> > > > +        *   and thus we discount *p's blocked utilization to return:
> > > > +        *      cpu_util_wake = (cpu_util - task_util) >= 0
> > > > +        *
> > > > +        * - if other tasks are RUNNABLE on that CPU and
> > > > +        *      util_est > cpu_util
> > > > +        *   then we use util_est since it returns a more restrictive
> > > > +        *   estimation of the spare capacity on that CPU, by just considering
> > > > +        *   the expected utilization of tasks already runnable on that CPU.
> > > > +        */
> > > > +       util_est = cpu_rq(cpu)->cfs.util_est_runnable;
> > > > +       util = max(util, util_est);
> > > > +
> > > > +       return util;
> > 
> > I should instead clamp util before returning it! ;-)
> > 
> > > May be a separate patch to remove  the clamping part?
> > 
> > No, I think we should keep cpu_util_wake clamped to not affect the existing
> > call sites. I just need to remove it where not needed (done) and add it where
> > needed (will do on the next iteration).
> 
> cpu_util_wake() is called only from capacity_spare_wake(). There are no other
> callsites.

True...

> The capacity_spare_wake() is clamping the return value of
> cpu_util_wake() to CPU capacity.

... actually it's clamping negative numbers with:

   max_t(long, capacity_of(cpu) - cpu_util_wake(cpu, p), 0);

thus, by having cpu_util_wake returning potentially a value which is
bigger then capacity_of or capacity_orig_of we should not have issues
from a capacity_spare_wake() usage standpoint.

> The clamping is not needed, I think.

However, we can still argue that the cpu_util_wake() should never
return something bigger then the maximum possible capacity of a CPU.
At least that's the feature so fare.

Thus, even just for the sake of consistency, with previous returns
paths (e.g. when we bail out returning cpu_util), I would say that
it's worth to maintain this semantics.

With a clamping, all these functions:
 - cpu_util
 - cpu_util_est
 - cpu_util_wake
will always return a signal which is never bigger then the maximum
possible CPU capacity.

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-31 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-23 18:08 [PATCH v3 0/3] Utilization estimation (util_est) for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-23 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-24 16:40   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-01-24 19:16     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-24 22:06       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-01-29 16:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 12:46     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-30 13:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-30 14:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-05 17:49           ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-23 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] sched/fair: use util_est in LB and WU paths Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-24 11:33   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-01-24 19:31     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-01-25 14:33       ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-01-31 15:32         ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-01-23 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: use util_est for OPP selection Patrick Bellasi

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