From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@android.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
Steve Muckle <smuckle@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 18:33:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180206183315.GG5739@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180206155056.GF2269@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 06-Feb 16:50, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> Mostly nice, I almost applied, except too many nits below.
:)
Thanks for the really fast still useful review!
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 02:41:29PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
>
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > index 7b6535987500..118f49c39b60 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -5193,6 +5193,20 @@ static inline void hrtick_update(struct rq *rq)
> > }
> > #endif
> >
> > +static inline unsigned long task_util(struct task_struct *p);
> > +static inline unsigned long _task_util_est(struct task_struct *p);
>
> What's with the leading underscore? I don't see one without it.
Good point, I was actually expecting this question and I should have
added it to the cover letter, sorry.
The reasoning was: the task's estimated utilization is defined as the
max between PELT and the "estimation". Where "estimation" is
the max between EWMA and the last ENQUEUED utilization.
Thus I was envisioning these two calls:
_task_util_est := max(EWMA, ENQUEUED)
task_util_est := max(util_avg, _task_util_est)
but since now we have clients only for the first API, I've not added
the second one. Still I would prefer to keep the "_" to make it clear
that's and util_est's internal signal, not the actual task's estimated
utilization.
Does it make sense?
Do you prefer I just remove the "_" and we will refactor it once we
should add a customer for the proper task's util_est?
> > +
> > +static inline void util_est_enqueue(struct task_struct *p)
>
> Also pass @rq from enqueue_task_fair() ? I see no point in computing
> task_rq(p) if we already have the value around.
You right, that seems to make sense.
I look into it and update if really sane.
>
> > +{
> > + struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = &task_rq(p)->cfs;
> > +
> > + if (!sched_feat(UTIL_EST))
> > + return;
> > +
> > + /* Update root cfs_rq's estimated utilization */
> > + cfs_rq->avg.util_est.enqueued += _task_util_est(p);
> > +}
>
>
> > +/*
> > + * Check if the specified (signed) value is within a specified margin,
> > + * based on the observation that:
> > + * abs(x) < y := (unsigned)(x + y - 1) < (2 * y - 1)
>
> * Note: this only works when x+y < INT_MAX.
+1
>
> > + */
> > +static inline bool within_margin(long value, unsigned int margin)
>
> This mixing of long and int is dodgy, do we want to consistently use int
> here?
Right, perhaps better "unsigned int" for both params, isn't?
> > +{
> > + return ((unsigned int)(value + margin - 1) < (2 * margin - 1));
> > +}
> > +
> > +static inline void util_est_dequeue(struct task_struct *p, int flags)
> > +{
> > + struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq = &task_rq(p)->cfs;
> > + unsigned long util_last;
> > + long last_ewma_diff;
> > + unsigned long ewma;
> > + long util_est = 0;
>
> Why long?
Right, because I've did not spot the possibility to update it when I
changed the util_est type... anyway, I'll check better, but likely
we don't need a long range.
> > +
> > + if (!sched_feat(UTIL_EST))
> > + return;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Update root cfs_rq's estimated utilization
> > + *
> > + * If *p is the last task then the root cfs_rq's estimated utilization
> > + * of a CPU is 0 by definition.
> > + */
> > + if (cfs_rq->nr_running) {
> > + util_est = READ_ONCE(cfs_rq->avg.util_est.enqueued);
>
> Because util_est.enqueued is of type 'unsigned int'.
Indeed...
>
> > + util_est -= min_t(long, util_est, _task_util_est(p));
> > + }
> > + WRITE_ONCE(cfs_rq->avg.util_est.enqueued, util_est);
>
> long to int truncate
right!
We have util_avg related signals which are all long based, but in the
scope of "utilization" tracking, and specifically for "util_est" signals,
int should have a sufficient range.
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Skip update of task's estimated utilization when the task has not
> > + * yet completed an activation, e.g. being migrated.
> > + */
> > + if (!(flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP))
> > + return;
> > +
> > + ewma = READ_ONCE(p->se.avg.util_est.ewma);
> > + util_last = task_util(p);
>
> Again, all kinds of long, while the ewma type itself is of 'unsigned
> int'.
Yes, for utilization should be enough...
>
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Skip update of task's estimated utilization when its EWMA is
> > + * already ~1% close to its last activation value.
> > + */
> > + last_ewma_diff = util_last - ewma;
> > + if (within_margin(last_ewma_diff, (SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE / 100)))
> > + return;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Update Task's estimated utilization
> > + *
> > + * When *p completes an activation we can consolidate another sample
> > + * about the task size. This is done by storing the last PELT value
> > + * for this task and using this value to load another sample in the
> > + * exponential weighted moving average:
> > + *
> > + * ewma(t) = w * task_util(p) + (1-w) * ewma(t-1)
> > + * = w * task_util(p) + ewma(t-1) - w * ewma(t-1)
> > + * = w * (task_util(p) - ewma(t-1)) + ewma(t-1)
> > + * = w * ( last_ewma_diff ) + ewma(t-1)
> > + * = w * (last_ewma_diff + ewma(t-1) / w)
> > + *
> > + * Where 'w' is the weight of new samples, which is configured to be
> > + * 0.25, thus making w=1/4 ( >>= UTIL_EST_WEIGHT_SHIFT)
> > + */
> > + ewma = last_ewma_diff + (ewma << UTIL_EST_WEIGHT_SHIFT);
> > + ewma >>= UTIL_EST_WEIGHT_SHIFT;
> > +
> > + WRITE_ONCE(p->se.avg.util_est.ewma, ewma);
> > + WRITE_ONCE(p->se.avg.util_est.enqueued, util_last);
>
> Two stores to that word... can we fix that nicely?
Good point, the single word comes from the goal to fit into the same
cache line of sched_avg.
I think we can fix it by having a struct util_est on stack and then it
should be possible to update the above code to do:
ue = READ_ONCE(p->se.avg.util_est)
... magic code on ue.{enqueued, ewma} ...
WRITE_ONCE(p->se.avg.util_est, ue);
That should be safe on 32bit builds too, right?
> > +}
>
> > +static inline unsigned long _task_util_est(struct task_struct *p)
> > +{
> > + return max(p->se.avg.util_est.ewma, p->se.avg.util_est.enqueued);
> > +}
>
> Aside from the underscore thing I already noted, why is this here and
> not where the fwd declaration is?
Because here is where we have already the definitions of
cpu_util{_est}() and task_util()... that's to try to keep things
together. Does it make sense?
> > +/*
> > + * UtilEstimation. Use estimated CPU utilization.
> > + */
> > +SCHED_FEAT(UTIL_EST, false)
>
> Since you couldn't measure it, do we wants it true?
I'm just a single tester so far, I would be more confident once
someone volunteer to turn this on to give a better coverage.
Moreover, a small out-of-tree patch enabling it for mobile devices is
more then acceptable for the time being ;)
Finally, we are also considering to post a follow-up to enable it via
KConfig along with a PELT half-life tunable, i.e using a 16ms instead
of the default 32ms. Do you think this is something can fly mainline?
Cheers Patrick
--
#include <best/regards.h>
Patrick Bellasi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-06 18:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-06 14:41 [PATCH v4 0/3] Utilization estimation (util_est) for FAIR tasks Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-06 14:41 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] sched/fair: add util_est on top of PELT Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-06 15:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-06 18:33 ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2018-02-06 19:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-06 19:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-07 11:57 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-07 11:48 ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-06 14:41 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] sched/fair: use util_est in LB and WU paths Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-06 14:41 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] sched/cpufreq_schedutil: use util_est for OPP selection Patrick Bellasi
2018-02-07 9:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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