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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Ilsche <thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de>,
	Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT][PATCH 6/7] sched: idle: Predict idle duration before stopping the tick
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 13:42:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180305124217.GZ25181@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0jxmVAvGuW=2uWuWHaUhdt1E6GXXy3DpkNOwhKWLfAqWA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 01:07:07PM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> >> So I think this is entirely wrong, I would much rather see something
> >> like:
> >>
> >>         tick_nohz_idle_go_idle(next_state->nohz);
> >>
> >> Where the selected state itself has the nohz property or not.
> >
> > Can you elaborate here, I'm not following?
> >
> >> We can always insert an extra state at whatever the right boundary point
> >> is for nohz if it doesn't line up with an existing point.
> 
> OK, I guess I know what you mean: to add a state flag meaning "stop
> the tick if this state is selected".

Yes, that.

> That could work, but I see problems, like having to go through all of
> the already defined states and deciding what to do with them.

Shouldn't be too hard, upon registering a cpuidle driver to the cpuidle
core, the core could go through the provided states and flag all those <
TICK_USEC as not stopping, all those > TICK_USEC as stopping and
splitting the state we'd select for TICK_NSEC sleeps, stopping it for <
and disabling it for >.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-05 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-04 22:21 [RFC/RFT][PATCH 0/7] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-04 22:24 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 1/7] time: tick-sched: Reorganize idle tick management code Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 10:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 11:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-04 22:24 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 2/7] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick upfront in the idle loop Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-04 22:24 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 3/7] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick before cpuidle_idle_call() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-04 22:26 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 4/7] cpuidle: menu: Split idle duration prediction from state selection Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 11:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 11:47     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 13:05         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 13:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-06  2:15             ` Li, Aubrey
2018-03-06  8:45               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-06 14:07                 ` Li, Aubrey
2018-03-04 22:27 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 5/7] cpuidle: New governor callback for predicting idle duration Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-04 22:28 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 6/7] sched: idle: Predict idle duration before stopping the tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 11:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 11:50     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 12:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 12:42         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-03-05 13:00           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 12:35   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 12:56     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-05 13:19     ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-05 13:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 13:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 15:36   ` Thomas Ilsche
2018-03-05 16:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-05 23:27   ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-06  8:18     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-04 22:29 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH 7/7] time: tick-sched: Avoid running the same code twice in a row Rafael J. Wysocki

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