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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Yu Chen <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
Cc: "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	"Lee, Chun-Yi" <jlee@suse.com>, Theodore Ts o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
	Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Gu, Kookoo" <kookoo.gu@intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4][RFC v2] Introduce the in-kernel hibernation encryption
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 13:01:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180719110149.GA4679@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180718235851.GA22170@sandybridge-desktop>

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On Thu 2018-07-19 07:58:51, Yu Chen wrote:
> Hi,
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:22:35PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Thu 2018-07-19 00:38:06, Chen Yu wrote:
> > > As security becomes more and more important, we add the in-kernel
> > > encryption support for hibernation.
> > 
> > Sorry, this does not really explain what security benefit it is
> > supposed have to against what attack scenarios.
> > 
> > Which unfortunately means it can not reviewed.
> > 
> > Note that uswsusp already provides encryption. If this is supposed to
> > have advantages over it, please say so.
> > 
> The advantages are described in detail in 
> [PATCH 1/4]'s log, please refer to that.

Are you refering to this?

# Generally the advantage is: Users do not have to
# encrypt the whole swap partition as other tools.
# After all, ideally kernel memory should be encrypted
# by the kernel itself.

Sorry, this does not really explain what security benefit it is
supposed have to against what attack scenarios.

Note that uswsusp already provides encryption. If this is supposed to
have advantages over it, please say so.

Also note that joeyli <jlee@suse.com> has patch series which encrypts
both in-kernel and uswsusp hibernation methods. His motivation is
secure boot. How does this compare to his work?

									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-18 16:38 [PATCH 0/4][RFC v2] Introduce the in-kernel hibernation encryption Chen Yu
2018-07-18 16:39 ` [PATCH 1/4][RFC v2] PM / Hibernate: Add helper functions for " Chen Yu
2018-07-18 16:39 ` [PATCH 2/4][RFC v2] PM / hibernate: Install crypto hooks " Chen Yu
2018-07-18 16:40 ` [PATCH 4/4][RFC v2] tools: create power/crypto utility Chen Yu
2018-07-18 20:22 ` [PATCH 0/4][RFC v2] Introduce the in-kernel hibernation encryption Pavel Machek
2018-07-18 23:58   ` Yu Chen
2018-07-19 11:01     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-07-19 13:20       ` Yu Chen
2018-07-20 10:25         ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-23 11:42           ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-23 12:22             ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-23 16:38               ` Yu Chen
2018-07-24 12:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-24 11:49               ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-24 13:04                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-23 16:23             ` Yu Chen
2018-07-24 11:40               ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-24 12:01               ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-24 12:47                 ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-24 13:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-07-24 13:01                     ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-26  7:30               ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-26  8:14                 ` joeyli
2018-07-30 17:04                   ` joeyli
2018-08-03  3:37                     ` Yu Chen
2018-08-03  5:34                       ` joeyli
2018-08-03 13:14                         ` Ryan Chen
2018-08-03 14:05                           ` joeyli
2018-08-03 16:09                             ` Ryan Chen
2018-08-03 18:06                               ` joeyli
2018-08-05 10:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-06  8:45                             ` Yu Chen
2018-08-06 10:39                               ` joeyli
2018-08-07  7:43                                 ` Yu Chen
2018-08-07 16:27                                   ` joeyli
2018-08-08 17:58                                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-09  3:43                                   ` Yu Chen
2018-08-09  8:12                                     ` joeyli
2018-08-08 17:50                               ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-09  3:01                                 ` Yu Chen
2018-08-09  6:53                                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-08-09  9:03                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2018-08-09 15:55                                   ` joeyli
2018-08-06  7:57                 ` Yu Chen
2018-08-06  9:48                   ` joeyli
2018-08-06 10:07                     ` Yu Chen
2018-08-06 10:20                   ` Oliver Neukum
2018-08-07  7:38                     ` Yu Chen
2018-08-07  7:49                       ` Ryan Chen
2018-08-07 10:04                       ` Oliver Neukum
2018-07-24 14:47             ` joeyli
2018-07-19 14:58       ` joeyli
     [not found] ` <edf92acf665b928f02104bb1835fd50723ab9980.1531924968.git.yu.c.chen@intel.com>
2018-07-19  5:32   ` [PATCH 3/4][RFC v2] PM / Hibernate: Encrypt the snapshot pages before submitted to the block device Yu Chen

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