From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Patrick Bellasi Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:04:42 +0100 Message-ID: <20180831090442.GA25636@e110439-lin> References: <20180820094420.26590-1-quentin.perret@arm.com> <20180820094420.26590-4-quentin.perret@arm.com> <20180829100435.GP2960@e110439-lin> <20180829132811.iacfltcos6kfgp7e@queper01-lin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180829132811.iacfltcos6kfgp7e@queper01-lin> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Quentin Perret Cc: peterz@infradead.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, mingo@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, morten.rasmussen@arm.com, chris.redpath@arm.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, thara.gopinath@linaro.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org, tkjos@google.com, joel@joelfernandes.org, smuckle@google.com, adharmap@codeaurora.org, skannan@codeaurora.org, pkondeti@codeaurora.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com, edubezval@gmail.com, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com, currojerez@riseup.net, javi.merino@kernel.org List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org On 29-Aug 14:28, Quentin Perret wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > On Wednesday 29 Aug 2018 at 11:04:35 (+0100), Patrick Bellasi wrote: > > In the loop above we use smp_store_release() to propagate the pointer > > setting in a PER_CPU(em_data), which ultimate goal is to protect > > em_register_perf_domain() from multiple clients registering the same > > power domain. > > > > I think there are two possible optimizations there: > > > > 1. use of a single memory barrier > > > > Since we are already em_pd_mutex protected, i.e. there cannot be a > > concurrent writers, we can use one single memory barrier after the > > loop, i.e. > > > > for_each_cpu(cpu, span) > > WRITE_ONCE() > > smp_wmb() > > > > which should be just enough to ensure that all other CPUs will see > > the pointer set once we release the mutex > > Right, I'm actually wondering if the memory barrier is needed at all ... > The mutex lock()/unlock() should already ensure the ordering I want no ? > > WRITE_ONCE() should prevent load/store tearing with concurrent em_cpu_get(), > and the release/acquire semantics of mutex lock/unlock should be enough to > serialize the memory accesses of concurrent em_register_perf_domain() calls > properly ... > > Hmm, let me read memory-barriers.txt again. Yes, I think it should... but better double check. > > 2. avoid using PER_CPU variables > > > > Apart from the initialization code, i.e. boot time, the em_data is > > expected to be read only, isn't it? > > That's right. It's not only read only, it's also not read very often (in > the use-cases I have in mind at least). The scheduler for example will > call em_cpu_get() once when sched domains are built, and keep the > reference instead of calling it again. > > > If that's the case, I think that using PER_CPU variables is not > > strictly required while it unnecessarily increases the cache pressure. > > > > In the worst case we can end up with one cache line for each CPU to > > host just an 8B pointer, instead of using that single cache line to host > > up to 8 pointers if we use just an array, i.e. > > > > struct em_perf_domain *em_data[NR_CPUS] > > ____cacheline_aligned_in_smp __read_mostly; > > > > Consider also that: up to 8 pointers in a single cache line means > > also that single cache line can be enough to access the EM from all > > the CPUs of almost every modern mobile phone SoC. > > > > Note entirely sure if PER_CPU uses less overall memory in case you > > have much less CPUs then the compile time defined NR_CPUS. > > But still, if the above makes sense, you still have a 8x gain > > factor between number Write allocated .data..percp sections and > > the value of NR_CPUS. Meaning that in the worst case we allocate > > the same amount of memory using NR_CPUS=64 (the default on arm64) > > while running on an 8 CPUs system... but still we should get less > > cluster caches pressure at run-time with the array approach, 1 > > cache line vs 4. > > Right, using per_cpu() might cause to bring in cache things you don't > really care about (other non-related per_cpu stuff), but that shouldn't > waste memory I think. I mean, if my em_data var is the first in a cache > line, the rest of the cache line will most likely be used by other > per_cpu variables anyways ... > > As you suggested, the alternative would be to have a simple array. I'm > fine with this TBH. But I would probably allocate it dynamically using > nr_cpu_ids instead of using a static NR_CPUS-wide thing though -- the > registration of perf domains usually happens late enough in the boot > process. > > What do you think ? Sound all reasonable to me. > Thanks > Quentin Best Patrick -- #include Patrick Bellasi