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From: Javi Merino <javi.merino@kernel.org>
To: Thara Gopinath <thara.gopinath@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, rui.zhang@intel.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	amit.kachhap@gmail.com, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
	edubezval@gmail.com, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, quentin.perret@arm.com,
	ionela.voinescu@arm.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce thermal pressure
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2018 06:44:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181010054449.GC2768@tesla> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1539102302-9057-1-git-send-email-thara.gopinath@linaro.org>

On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 12:24:55PM -0400, Thara Gopinath wrote:
> Thermal governors can respond to an overheat event for a cpu by
> capping the cpu's maximum possible frequency. This in turn
> means that the maximum available compute capacity of the
> cpu is restricted. But today in linux kernel, in event of maximum
> frequency capping of a cpu, the maximum available compute
> capacity of the cpu is not adjusted at all. In other words, scheduler
> is unware maximum cpu capacity restrictions placed due to thermal
> activity.

Interesting, I would have sworn that I tested this years ago by
lowering the maximum frequency of a cpufreq domain, and the scheduler
reacted accordingly to the new maximum capacities of the cpus.

>           This patch series attempts to address this issue.
> The benefits identified are better task placement among available
> cpus in event of overheating which in turn leads to better
> performance numbers.
> 
> The delta between the maximum possible capacity of a cpu and
> maximum available capacity of a cpu due to thermal event can
> be considered as thermal pressure. Instantaneous thermal pressure
> is hard to record and can sometime be erroneous as there can be mismatch
> between the actual capping of capacity and scheduler recording it.
> Thus solution is to have a weighted average per cpu value for thermal
> pressure over time. The weight reflects the amount of time the cpu has
> spent at a capped maximum frequency. To accumulate, average and
> appropriately decay thermal pressure, this patch series uses pelt
> signals and reuses the available framework that does a similar
> bookkeeping of rt/dl task utilization.
> 
> Regarding testing, basic build, boot and sanity testing have been
> performed on hikey960 mainline kernel with debian file system.
> Further aobench (An occlusion renderer for benchmarking realworld
> floating point performance) showed the following results on hikey960
> with debain.
> 
>                                         Result          Standard        Standard
>                                         (Time secs)     Error           Deviation
> Hikey 960 - no thermal pressure applied 138.67          6.52            11.52%
> Hikey 960 -  thermal pressure applied   122.37          5.78            11.57%
> 
> Thara Gopinath (7):
>   sched/pelt: Add option to make load and util calculations frequency
>     invariant
>   sched/pelt.c: Add support to track thermal pressure
>   sched: Add infrastructure to store and update instantaneous thermal
>     pressure
>   sched: Initialize per cpu thermal pressure structure
>   sched/fair: Enable CFS periodic tick to update thermal pressure
>   sched/fair: update cpu_capcity to reflect thermal pressure
>   thermal/cpu-cooling: Update thermal pressure in case of a maximum
>     frequency capping
> 
>  drivers/base/arch_topology.c  |  1 +
>  drivers/thermal/cpu_cooling.c | 20 ++++++++++++-

thermal?  There are other ways in which the maximum frequency of a cpu
can be limited, for example from userspace via scaling_max_freq.

When something (anything) changes the maximum frequency of a cpufreq
policy, the scheduler should be notified.  I think this change should
be done in cpufreq instead to make it generic and not particular to
a given maximum frequency "capper".

Cheers,
Javi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10  5:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-10-09 16:24 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce thermal pressure Thara Gopinath
2018-10-09 16:24   ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] sched/pelt.c: Add option to make load and util calculations frequency invariant Thara Gopinath
2018-10-09 16:24   ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] sched/pelt.c: Add support to track thermal pressure Thara Gopinath
2018-10-09 16:24   ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] sched: Add infrastructure to store and update instantaneous " Thara Gopinath
2018-10-09 16:24   ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] sched: Initialize per cpu thermal pressure structure Thara Gopinath
2018-10-09 16:25   ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: Enable CFS periodic tick to update thermal pressure Thara Gopinath
2018-12-04 15:43     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-09 16:25   ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: update cpu_capcity to reflect " Thara Gopinath
2018-10-10  5:57     ` Javi Merino
2018-10-10 14:22       ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-09 16:25   ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] thermal/cpu-cooling: Update thermal pressure in case of a maximum frequency capping Thara Gopinath
2018-10-10  5:44   ` Javi Merino [this message]
2018-10-10 14:15     ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce thermal pressure Thara Gopinath
2018-10-10  6:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-10  8:29     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-10  8:50       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10  9:55         ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-10 10:14           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 10:36             ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-10 12:04               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 12:23                 ` Juri Lelli
2018-10-10 12:34                   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 12:50                     ` Juri Lelli
2018-10-10 13:08                       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 13:34                         ` Juri Lelli
2018-10-10 13:38                           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 17:08                           ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-10 13:11                       ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-10 13:05                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-10 13:27                   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 13:47                     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-10 15:19                       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-10 16:15                       ` Ionela Voinescu
2018-10-10 17:03           ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-10 15:43     ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-16  7:33       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-16  9:28         ` Lukasz Luba
2018-10-17 16:21         ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-18  6:48           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-18  7:08             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-10-18  7:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-18  8:14                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-10-18  9:35                   ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/cpufreq: Reorganize the cpufreq files Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-18  9:35                     ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/cpufreq: Add the SPDX tags Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-18  9:42                     ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/cpufreq: Reorganize the cpufreq files Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-10-18  9:54                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-18 10:06                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-10-18 10:13                           ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-18  9:45                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-19  5:24                     ` kbuild test robot
2018-10-19  5:52                     ` kbuild test robot
2018-10-18  9:44                   ` [PATCH V2 " Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-18  9:44                     ` [PATCH V2 2/2] sched/cpufreq: Add the SPDX tags Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-18 16:17             ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce thermal pressure Thara Gopinath
2018-10-19  8:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-10-19 11:29                 ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-10 15:35   ` Lukasz Luba
2018-10-10 16:54     ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-11  7:35       ` Lukasz Luba
2018-10-11  8:23         ` Daniel Lezcano
2018-10-12  9:37           ` Lukasz Luba
2018-10-10 17:30     ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-11 11:10       ` Lukasz Luba
2018-10-16 17:11         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-17 16:24           ` Thara Gopinath
2018-10-18  8:00             ` Lukasz Luba
2018-10-18  8:12           ` Lukasz Luba

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