From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
"Lee, Chun-Yi" <joeyli.kernel@gmail.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
Ryan Chen <yu.chen.surf@gmail.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Giovanni Gherdovich <ggherdovich@suse.cz>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5 v2] PM / hibernate: Create snapshot keys handler
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 09:34:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190109173454.GB249140@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2344329.gmPllosFfp@tauon.chronox.de>
On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 11:17:45AM +0100, Stephan Mueller wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2019, 09:21:04 CET schrieb Eric Biggers:
>
> Hi Eric,
> >
> > FWIW, it's been very slow going since I've been working on other projects
> > and I also need to be very sure to get the API changes right, but I still
> > plan to change the KDF in fscrypt (a.k.a. ext4/f2fs/ubifs encryption) to
> > HKDF-SHA512 as part of a larger set of improvements to how fscrypt
> > encryption keys are managed. I sent the last patchset a year ago
> > (https://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=150879493206257) but I'm working to
> > revive it. In the work-in-progress version in my git tree, this is the
> > commit that adds a HKDF implementation as fs/crypto/hkdf.c:
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ebiggers/linux.git/commit/?id=e8a78767131c9717ee838f0c4e307948d65a4427
> > It basically just wraps a crypto_shash for "hmac(sha512)".
> >
> > I'd be fine with using a common implementation instead, provided that it
> > gives the same functionality, including supporting user-specified salt and
> > application-specific info strings, and isn't slower or more complex to use.
> >
> > (This comment is solely on the tangential discussion about KDF
> > implementations; I've not looked at the hibernation image encryption stuff
> > yet.)
>
> Thanks for the clarification. I have started a generic HKDF implementation for
> the kernel crypto API which lead to the questions above. I would then also try
> to provide a HKDF proposal.
>
> To use the (H)KDF, I currently envision 2 calls apart from alloc/free. The
> following code would serve as an example.
>
> * Example without proper error handling:
> * char *keying_material = "\x00\x11\x22\x33\x44\x55\x66\x77";
> * char *label_context = "\xde\xad\xbe\xef\x00\xde\xad\xbe\xef";
> * kdf = crypto_alloc_rng(name, 0, 0);
> * crypto_rng_reset(kdf, keying_material, 8);
> * crypto_rng_generate(kdf, label_context, 9, outbuf, outbuflen);
>
> That hopefully should be simple enough.
>
> For HKDF, as mentioned, I would envision to use a struct instead of a char *
> for the label_context to communicate IKM, Salt, and the label/info
> information.
>
> Ciao
> Stephan
>
That would not meet my performance requirements as I want to precompute
HKDF-Extract, and then do HKDF-Expand many times. Also the HKDF-Expand part
should be thread-safe and not require allocating memory, especially not a whole
crypto_shash tfm every time.
So presumably with crypto_rng, crypto_rng_reset() would need to take the input
keyring material and salt and do HKDF-Extract (like my fscrypt_init_hkdf()), and
crypto_rng_generate() would need to take the application-specific info string
and do HKDF-Expand (like my fscrypt_hkdf_expand()).
It is ugly though. Please also consider just having simple crypto_hkdf_*()
helper functions which wrap a HMAC tfm along the lines of my patch, rather than
shoehorning it into the crypto_rng API.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-09 17:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-03 14:32 [PATCH 0/5 v2][RFC] Encryption and authentication for hibernate snapshot image Lee, Chun-Yi
2019-01-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 1/5 v2] PM / hibernate: Create snapshot keys handler Lee, Chun-Yi
2019-01-06 8:01 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-06 8:25 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-07 15:33 ` joeyli
2019-01-07 15:52 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-08 5:03 ` Herbert Xu
2019-01-08 7:09 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-08 23:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-09 0:44 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-09 1:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-09 6:49 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-09 18:11 ` joeyli
2019-01-11 15:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-01-09 18:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-09 19:46 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-09 20:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-09 21:43 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-09 22:19 ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-11 16:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-01-11 14:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-01-11 15:28 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-18 14:33 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-01-18 20:59 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-20 16:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-01-09 6:45 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-09 6:58 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-09 7:05 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-09 8:21 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-09 10:17 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-09 17:34 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2019-01-09 18:18 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-11 19:08 ` [PATCH 0/6] General Key Derivation Function Support Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:09 ` [PATCH 1/6] crypto: add template handling for RNGs Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:10 ` [PATCH 2/6] crypto: kdf - SP800-108 Key Derivation Function Stephan Müller
2019-01-12 5:27 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14 9:31 ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:10 ` [PATCH 3/6] crypto: kdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-12 5:26 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14 9:26 ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-11 19:10 ` [PATCH 4/6] crypto: hkdf - RFC5869 Key Derivation Function Stephan Müller
2019-01-12 5:12 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-12 9:55 ` Herbert Xu
2019-01-13 7:56 ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-13 16:52 ` James Bottomley
2019-01-14 9:30 ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-14 17:53 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14 18:44 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-11 19:10 ` [PATCH 5/6] crypto: hkdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-12 5:19 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-14 9:25 ` Stephan Müller
2019-01-14 17:44 ` Eric Biggers
2019-01-11 19:11 ` [PATCH 6/6] crypto: tcrypt - add KDF test invocation Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] General Key Derivation Function Support Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] crypto: add template handling for RNGs Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] crypto: kdf - SP800-108 Key Derivation Function Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:08 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] crypto: kdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:08 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] crypto: hkdf - HMAC-based Extract-and-Expand KDF Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:09 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] crypto: hkdf - add known answer tests Stephan Müller
2019-01-16 11:09 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] crypto: tcrypt - add KDF test invocation Stephan Müller
2019-01-28 10:07 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] General Key Derivation Function Support Stephan Mueller
2019-01-30 10:08 ` Herbert Xu
2019-01-30 14:39 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-02-08 7:45 ` Herbert Xu
2019-02-08 8:00 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-02-08 8:05 ` Herbert Xu
2019-02-08 8:17 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-02-19 5:44 ` Herbert Xu
2019-01-09 15:34 ` [PATCH 1/5 v2] PM / hibernate: Create snapshot keys handler James Bottomley
2019-01-09 6:27 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 2/5] PM / hibernate: Generate and verify signature for snapshot image Lee, Chun-Yi
2019-01-06 8:09 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-07 18:58 ` Dan Carpenter
2019-01-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 3/5] PM / hibernate: Encrypt " Lee, Chun-Yi
2019-01-06 8:23 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 4/5 v2] PM / hibernate: Erase the snapshot master key in snapshot pages Lee, Chun-Yi
2019-01-03 14:32 ` [PATCH 5/5 v2] PM / hibernate: An option to request that snapshot image must be authenticated Lee, Chun-Yi
2019-01-06 18:10 ` [PATCH 0/5 v2][RFC] Encryption and authentication for hibernate snapshot image Pavel Machek
2019-01-07 17:37 ` joeyli
2019-01-07 18:07 ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-08 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-08 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2019-01-09 16:39 ` joeyli
2019-01-09 16:47 ` Stephan Mueller
2019-01-11 14:29 ` joeyli
2019-01-09 16:51 ` joeyli
2019-01-09 18:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-10 15:12 ` joeyli
2019-01-11 1:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-11 14:59 ` joeyli
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