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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, mgorman@suse.de, dsmythies@telus.net,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, sargun@sargun.me, tj@kernel.org,
	xiexiuqi@huawei.com, xiezhipeng1@huawei.com,
	srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched/freq: move call to cpufreq_update_util
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 10:54:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191115095447.GU4114@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1573751251-3505-1-git-send-email-vincent.guittot@linaro.org>

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 06:07:31PM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> update_cfs_rq_load_avg() calls cfs_rq_util_change() everytime pelt decays,
> which might be inefficient when cpufreq driver has rate limitation.
> 
> When a task is attached on a CPU, we have call path:
> 
> update_load_avg()
>   update_cfs_rq_load_avg()
>     cfs_rq_util_change -- > trig frequency update
>   attach_entity_load_avg()
>     cfs_rq_util_change -- > trig frequency update
> 
> The 1st frequency update will not take into account the utilization of the
> newly attached task and the 2nd one might be discard because of rate
> limitation of the cpufreq driver.

Doesn't this just show that a dumb rate limit in the driver is broken?

> update_cfs_rq_load_avg() is only called by update_blocked_averages()
> and update_load_avg() so we can move the call to
> cfs_rq_util_change/cpufreq_update_util() into these 2 functions. It's also
> interesting to notice that update_load_avg() already calls directly
> cfs_rq_util_change() for !SMP case.
> 
> This changes will also ensure that cpufreq_update_util() is called even
> when there is no more CFS rq in the leaf_cfs_rq_list to update but only
> irq, rt or dl pelt signals.

I don't think it does that; that is, iirc the return value of
___update_load_sum() is 1 every time a period lapses. So even if the avg
is 0 and doesn't change, it'll still return 1 on every period.

Which is what that dumb rate-limit thing wants of course. But I'm still
thinking that it's stupid to do. If nothing changes, don't generate
events.

If anything, update_blocked_avgerages() should look at
@done/others_have_blocked() to emit events for rt,dl,irq.

So why are we making the scheduler code more ugly instead of fixing that
driver?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-15  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-14 17:07 [PATCH v4] sched/freq: move call to cpufreq_update_util Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15  9:54 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-11-15 10:03   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-15 10:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 11:05       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:18   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:29     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 11:59       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 12:25         ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 10:46       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 11:03           ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 11:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 13:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 13:30               ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 13:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 15:30               ` Doug Smythies
2019-11-15 10:51         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-15 12:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-15 13:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 13:37   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 14:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 14:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 15:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 15:31       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 17:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 18:00           ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 20:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-16  8:47   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-16 15:07     ` Doug Smythies

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