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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>,
	"open list:THERMAL" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Xie XiuQi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>,
	xiezhipeng1@huawei.com,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] sched/freq: move call to cpufreq_update_util
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:17:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191115121714.GI4131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtDi_-h6g+rhV04XXjqpWprC2vT6hgLZSrTW5rdD54PrQA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:46:01AM +0100, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 11:37, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> > Sure, but then it can still remember the value passed in last and use
> > that state later.
> >
> > It doesn't _have_ to completely discard values.
> 
> yes but it means that we run at the "wrong" frequency during this
> period and also that the cpufreq must in this case set a kind of timer
> to resubmit a new frequency change out of scheduler event

It always runs at the wrong frequency. Almost per definition. We're
doing near future predictions based on recent past, and if we can only
set the hardware once every N [ms] then there's really nothing better we
can do. We'll _have_ to live with the value we 'randomly' pick at the
start of those N [ms] for the whole period.

And I'm not sure it needs to set a timer, it can simply probe the value
when we go idle, if this is the kind of system that cares about OPP on
idle.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-15 12:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-14 17:07 [PATCH v4] sched/freq: move call to cpufreq_update_util Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15  9:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 10:03   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-15 10:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 11:05       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:18   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:29     ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 11:59       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 12:25         ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 10:46       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 10:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 11:03           ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 11:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 13:01             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 13:30               ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 13:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 15:30               ` Doug Smythies
2019-11-15 10:51         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-15 12:17         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-11-15 11:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-11-15 13:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 13:37   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 14:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 14:12       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 15:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 15:31       ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 17:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 18:00           ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-15 20:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-16  8:47   ` Vincent Guittot
2019-11-16 15:07     ` Doug Smythies

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