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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, sudeep.holla@arm.com,
	rafael@kernel.org, viresh.kumar@linaro.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, yzaikin@google.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	tkjos@google.com, kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Modularize schedutil
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 12:37:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200508103721.GA3860390@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200508081128.GM5298@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 10:11:28AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 07:09:58PM +0100, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > One challenge to implement GKI is to avoid bloating the kernel by
> > compiling too many things in, especially given that different devices
> > need different things. As such, anything that can be turned into a
> > module helps GKI, by offering an alternative to having that component
> > built-in. This is true for pretty much anything that can be made
> > modular, including drivers as well as other kernel components, such as
> > CPUFreq governors.
> 
> The idea is to move to 1 governor, schedutil. Also, I abhor all the
> exports this thing does. Modules have no business touching most of that.
> 
> Look at every EXPORT you do and wonder ask yourself how you can abuse
> it. Modules are not a good thing, they're horrible pieces of crap.

Quentin, what is missing from schedutil that warrants the need for a
totally different governor?  Is there specific problems with the
existing ones or is this just an instance of "we wrote our own a long
time ago and never pushed it upstream" from various SoC companies?

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-08 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-07 18:09 [PATCH 00/14] Modularize schedutil Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:09 ` [PATCH 01/14] sched: Provide sched_set_deadline() Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 02/14] sched: cpufreq: Use sched_set_deadline() from sugov Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 03/14] sched: cpufreq: Introduce 'want_eas' governor flag Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 04/14] sched: cpufreq: Move sched_cpufreq_governor_change() Quentin Perret
2020-05-08  5:35   ` Pavan Kondeti
2020-05-08 13:18     ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 05/14] sched: cpufreq: Move schedutil_cpu_util() Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 06/14] arch_topology: Export cpu_scale per-cpu array Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 07/14] kthread: Export kthread_bind_mask() Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 08/14] sched/core: Export runqueues per-cpu array Quentin Perret
2020-05-08  8:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 10:04     ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 09/14] sched/cpufreq: Export cpufreq_this_cpu_can_update() Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 10/14] sched/fair: Export cpu_util_freq() Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 11/14] tick/sched: Export tick_nohz_get_idle_calls_cpu Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 12/14] x86: Export arch_scale_freq_key Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 13/14] sched: cpufreq: Use IS_ENABLED() for schedutil Quentin Perret
2020-05-08  5:30   ` Pavan Kondeti
2020-05-08 13:21     ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-09  2:43       ` Pavan Kondeti
2020-05-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 14/14] sched: cpufreq: Modularize schedutil Quentin Perret
2020-05-07 21:34 ` [PATCH 00/14] " Valentin Schneider
2020-05-08 13:15   ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-08 14:52     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-08  5:33 ` Viresh Kumar
2020-05-08 13:18   ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-08  8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 10:37   ` Greg KH [this message]
2020-05-08 11:16     ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-08 11:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 13:05         ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-08 13:40           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-11  9:00             ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-11 15:26               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-12  9:21                 ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-12 10:25                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-12 13:58                     ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-12 14:08                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-12 15:11                         ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-12 15:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-12 15:49                             ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13  8:57                               ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-12 16:26                             ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-12 17:30                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-05-13  9:41                                 ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-13 10:02                                   ` Greg KH
2020-05-13 10:06                                     ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-13 10:24                                       ` Greg KH
2020-05-08 14:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11  9:12             ` Quentin Perret
2020-05-08 11:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11  5:21       ` Viresh Kumar

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