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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Forbid RPM on ACPI systems before 5.0 only
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:35:22 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220117233522.GA815664@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cadbd4eb-40bb-1fa8-1e00-dc95dab62295@gmail.com>

[+cc Kai-Heng, Lukas, Mika, since they were cc'd or commented on [0] below]

On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 11:51:54AM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> Currently PCI core forbids RPM and requires opt-in from userspace,
> apart from few drivers calling pm_runtime_allow(). Reason is that some
> early ACPI PM implementations conflict with RPM, see [0].
> Note that as of today pm_runtime_forbid() is also called for non-ACPI
> systems. Maybe it's time to allow RPM per default for non-ACPI systems
> and recent enough ACPI versions. Let's allow RPM from ACPI 5.0 which
> was published in 2011.

Let's reword this to use the positive sense, e.g., something like
"enable runtime power management for non-ACPI and ACPI 5.0 and newer."

This feels like a potentially significant change that could cause
breakage.  

  - How would a user recognize that we're doing something different?
    Maybe we need a note in dmesg?

  - If a system broke because of this, what would it look like?  How
    would a user notice a problem, and how would he or she connect the
    problem to this change?

  - Is there a kernel parameter that will get the previous behavior of
    disabling runtime PM as a workaround until a quirk can be added?
    If so, we should probably mention it here.  If not, should there
    be?

> [0] https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/17/1548

Please use an https://lore.kernel.org/r/... link instead.

Let's mention bb910a7040e9 ("PCI/PM Runtime: Make runtime PM of PCI
devices inactive by default") as well to help connect the dots here.

> Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
> ---
>  drivers/pci/pci.c | 7 ++++++-
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci.c b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> index 428afd459..26e3a500c 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pci.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pci.c
> @@ -3101,7 +3101,12 @@ void pci_pm_init(struct pci_dev *dev)
>  	u16 status;
>  	u16 pmc;
>  
> -	pm_runtime_forbid(&dev->dev);
> +#ifdef CONFIG_ACPI
> +	/* Some early ACPI PM implementations conflict with RPM. */
> +	if (acpi_gbl_FADT.header.revision > 0 &&
> +	    acpi_gbl_FADT.header.revision < 5)
> +		pm_runtime_forbid(&dev->dev);
> +#endif
>  	pm_runtime_set_active(&dev->dev);
>  	pm_runtime_enable(&dev->dev);
>  	device_enable_async_suspend(&dev->dev);
> -- 
> 2.34.1
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-17 23:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-17 10:51 [PATCH] PCI: Forbid RPM on ACPI systems before 5.0 only Heiner Kallweit
2022-01-17 23:35 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2022-01-18  8:06   ` Heiner Kallweit
2022-01-18 16:09     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-18 16:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-18 16:56   ` Heiner Kallweit
2022-01-18 17:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-18 17:42       ` Heiner Kallweit
2022-01-19 19:38         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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