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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@google.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Patrik Fimml <patrikf@chromium.org>,
	Bastien Nocera <hadess@hadess.net>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Power-managing devices that are not of interest at some point in time
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:21:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2047146.r4vphTZhkk@dtor-glaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1407191357140.28179-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Saturday, July 19, 2014 01:59:01 PM Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Benson Leung wrote:
> > > This raises an interesting question.  Suppose the system gets suspended
> > > while the lid is closed.  At that point, shouldn't wakeup devices be
> > > enabled, even if they were already inhibited?
> > 
> > It's possible that this could be a policy decision, ie, whether
> > power/wakeup is set to enabled for those devices or not.
> > However, I'd say that there's only one policy that makes sense in that
> > case : wakeups should be disabled while suspended.
> > 
> > If we inhibited the device during runtime to prevent stray input
> > events from being generated, it wouldn't make sense to allow the
> > device to potentially generate an accidental wakeup while suspended.
> 
> That doesn't really make sense.  If you're afraid of a device
> generating spurious wakeup events when the lid is closed, you should
> never enable it for wakeup.  After all, one of the first things that
> people often do after suspending their laptop is close the lid.

That's a fair point, and I think should be done by default. But that does not 
change what Benson said - I think if we inhibited the device it should stay 
inhibited across system suspend, including being disabled as wakeup source 
even if it could be enabled as such.

Thanks,
Dmitry


  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-19 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-16  1:32 Power-managing devices that are not of interest at some point in time Patrik Fimml
2014-07-16 10:00 ` Bastien Nocera
2014-07-16 14:17 ` Alan Stern
2014-07-16 16:14   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-16 18:08     ` Alan Stern
2014-07-16 18:55       ` Kevin Cernekee
2014-07-16 21:36       ` Oliver Neukum
2014-07-16 17:12   ` Benson Leung
2014-07-16 23:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 23:13   ` Bastien Nocera
2014-07-16 23:33     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-16 23:23       ` Bastien Nocera
2014-07-16 23:31         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-17 14:39           ` Alan Stern
2014-07-17 16:59             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-18  0:43               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-18  0:43                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-18  1:30                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-18  1:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-18 15:19                     ` Alan Stern
2014-07-18 17:47                 ` Patrik Fimml
2014-07-18 19:00                   ` Alan Stern
2014-07-18 19:23                     ` Patrik Fimml
2014-07-18 20:09                       ` Alan Stern
2014-07-18 21:26                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-18 21:59                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-18 21:45                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-18 22:19                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-18 22:55                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-18 23:16                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-07-18 23:47                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-19 14:51                                     ` Alan Stern
2014-07-19 15:23                                       ` Benson Leung
2014-07-19 17:59                                         ` Alan Stern
2014-07-19 18:21                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2014-07-19 20:19                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-07-21 23:23                                     ` hadess
2014-07-28 19:58                                       ` Patrik Fimml
2014-07-28 20:01                                     ` Patrik Fimml
2014-07-17  6:01       ` Oliver Neukum
2014-07-16 23:17   ` Patrik Fimml

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