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From: "Bartłomiej Zimoń" <uzi18@o2.pl>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Andy Walls" <awalls@radix.net>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <danborkmann@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:53:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24fb84fa.38887c91.4b411ffd.e7f1f@o2.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001032229.53221.rjw@sisk.pl>

Dnia 3 stycznia 2010 22:29 "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> napisał(a):
> > > To put it in a different way, you apparently want the kernel to notify the user
> > > space of an event originating from the user space and my question is why not
> > > to set up the user space to generate the notification without relying on the
> > > kernel to do that.
> > 
> > Because now kernel know better what is going on.
> 
> That's because it's just been told by the user space about that.
> 
> Basically, you want something like this to happen:
> 
> process A ->(suspend) kernel
> kernel ->(suspending) process B
> 

Yes.

> where the kernel won't wait for process B to do whatever it has to do before
> suspending.  In my opinion it'd be better to do something like this
> 
> process A ->(suspending) process B
> process B ->(ack) process A
> process A ->(suspend) kernel
> 
> ... 

Please forget for a moment about pm-utils.

I was thinking about sf like this:
pm-notify is registered in pm_notifier_chain or called before pm_notifiers_chain
pm-notify -> (suspending) all registerd processes
some processes ->(ack) pm-notify
after timeout ( 1s. could be ok) pm-notify will send NOTIFY_OK and kernel will cont. suspending

It could be even UIO module but there are no pm events reachable there?

If it is not clean, we must extend pm-utils or write something new
(with backends dbus, ipc, scripts, ...)
But You see? We still have no information from kernel about events 
(especialy resume) or maybe i dont see this ;/

Thanks for your understanding Rafael :)

Best regards.
Bartłomiej Zimoń
PLD Linux, Kadu Team, FreeRunner user
http://kadu-im.blogspot.com/

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-01-03 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <686edb2c.6263643a.4b3f4a3b.b60b3@o2.pl>
     [not found] ` <201001022201.04281.rjw@sisk.pl>
     [not found]   ` <7cf4f51f.5fc2a5cd.4b3fc3ad.c849c@o2.pl>
2010-01-02 23:29     ` [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification from module Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03  1:03       ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03  9:30         ` Daniel Borkmann
2010-01-03 21:29         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <4B4063AB.7080401@gmail.com>
2010-01-03 10:06           ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]           ` <4B406C14.2070907@gmail.com>
2010-01-03 11:01             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-03 21:49               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <201001032249.11510.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-04 13:38                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2010-01-03 21:33           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <201001032229.53221.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-03 22:53           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń [this message]
2010-01-03 23:30             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]             ` <201001040030.01256.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-03 23:35               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
     [not found]               ` <54ac764e.502c1a33.4b4129c3.9dc1b@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 23:45                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <201001040045.39517.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-04  0:51                   ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-04 12:46                   ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]                   ` <a522f3c.3bab16d1.4b413b9c.ec43@o2.pl>
2010-01-04 19:43                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <201001042043.27037.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-05  9:07                       ` Anders Eriksson
     [not found]                       ` <20100105090706.751D233C4B0@tippex.mynet.homeunix.org>
2010-01-05 21:02                         ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 21:23                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                           ` <201001052223.21964.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-05 22:12                             ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
     [not found]                             ` <16a1b165.2fdc37c6.4b43b943.c6733@o2.pl>
2010-01-05 23:03                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                               ` <201001060003.23419.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-05 23:37                                 ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 14:35                                   ` Anders Eriksson
     [not found]                                   ` <20100106143534.A7EEA33C5F5@tippex.mynet.homeunix.org>
2010-01-06 20:37                                     ` [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notific ation " Bartłomiej Zimoń
     [not found]                                     ` <5c33d92a.63a2de8c.4b44f47a.8762@o2.pl>
2010-01-06 20:49                                       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                       ` <adatyuzt0vg.fsf@roland-alpha.cisco.com>
2010-01-06 20:56                                         ` Roland Dreier
2010-01-15 20:02                                     ` [suspend/resume] Re: userspace notification " Pavel Machek
2010-01-05 21:26                         ` Stefan Seyfried
     [not found]                         ` <20100105222657.27218c4c@strolchi.home.s3e.de>
2010-01-05 22:22                           ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-05 23:05                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                             ` <201001060005.17246.rjw@sisk.pl>
2010-01-06  0:43                               ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
2010-01-06 10:10                             ` Stefan Seyfried
     [not found]                   ` <4B41E318.4050809@gmail.com>
2010-01-04 19:45                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 17:20       ` Bartłomiej Zimoń
     [not found]       ` <ff72e3e.3b5092ec.4b40d1ec.54407@o2.pl>
2010-01-03 21:50         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-03 23:17 Bartłomiej Zimoń
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2010-01-06  1:05 Bartłomiej Zimoń
     [not found] <1df13dac.5ba05e5c.4b43e1e2.120e@o2.pl>
2010-01-06 22:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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