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Thu, 30 Jan 2025 02:50:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3d1abbd5-8ca6-4cd3-9800-e9aeda398e86@tuxon.dev> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 12:50:13 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] thermal: of: Export non-devres helper to register/unregister thermal zone From: Claudiu Beznea To: Daniel Lezcano Cc: rafael@kernel.org, rui.zhang@intel.com, lukasz.luba@arm.com, robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org, geert+renesas@glider.be, magnus.damm@gmail.com, mturquette@baylibre.com, sboyd@kernel.org, p.zabel@pengutronix.de, ulf.hansson@linaro.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, Claudiu Beznea References: <20250103163805.1775705-1-claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com> <20250103163805.1775705-3-claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com> <65a16c3f-456e-40ec-91b0-afb57269ed46@tuxon.dev> <6ed7d545-82d7-4bca-95ec-95447586bb58@tuxon.dev> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <6ed7d545-82d7-4bca-95ec-95447586bb58@tuxon.dev> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30.01.2025 12:30, Claudiu Beznea wrote: > > > On 30.01.2025 12:07, Daniel Lezcano wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 11:08:03AM +0200, Claudiu Beznea wrote: >>> Hi, Daniel, >>> >>> On 29.01.2025 19:24, Daniel Lezcano wrote: >>>> Hi Claudiu, >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 03, 2025 at 06:38:01PM +0200, Claudiu wrote: >>>>> From: Claudiu Beznea >>>>> >>>>> On the Renesas RZ/G3S (and other Renesas SoCs, e.g., RZ/G2{L, LC, UL}), >>>>> clocks are managed through PM domains. These PM domains, registered on >>>>> behalf of the clock controller driver, are configured with >>>>> GENPD_FLAG_PM_CLK. In most of the Renesas drivers used by RZ SoCs, the >>>>> clocks are enabled/disabled using runtime PM APIs. >>>>> >>>>> During probe, devices are attached to the PM domain controlling their >>>>> clocks. Similarly, during removal, devices are detached from the PM domain. >>>>> >>>>> The detachment call stack is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> device_driver_detach() -> >>>>> device_release_driver_internal() -> >>>>> __device_release_driver() -> >>>>> device_remove() -> >>>>> platform_remove() -> >>>>> dev_pm_domain_detach() >>>>> >>>>> In the upcoming Renesas RZ/G3S thermal driver, the >>>>> struct thermal_zone_device_ops::change_mode API is implemented to >>>>> start/stop the thermal sensor unit. Register settings are updated within >>>>> the change_mode API. >>>>> >>>>> In case devres helpers are used for thermal zone register/unregister the >>>>> struct thermal_zone_device_ops::change_mode API is invoked when the >>>>> driver is unbound. The identified call stack is as follows: >>>>> >>>>> device_driver_detach() -> >>>>> device_release_driver_internal() -> >>>>> device_unbind_cleanup() -> >>>>> devres_release_all() -> >>>>> devm_thermal_of_zone_release() -> >>>>> thermal_zone_device_disable() -> >>>>> thermal_zone_device_set_mode() -> >>>>> rzg3s_thermal_change_mode() >>>>> >>>>> The device_unbind_cleanup() function is called after the thermal device is >>>>> detached from the PM domain (via dev_pm_domain_detach()). >>>>> >>>>> The rzg3s_thermal_change_mode() implementation calls >>>>> pm_runtime_resume_and_get()/pm_runtime_put_autosuspend() before/after >>>>> accessing the registers. However, during the unbind scenario, the >>>>> devm_thermal_of_zone_release() is invoked after dev_pm_domain_detach(). >>>>> Consequently, the clocks are not enabled, as the device is removed from >>>>> the PM domain at this time, leading to an Asynchronous SError Interrupt. >>>>> The system cannot be used after this. >>>> >>>> I've been through the driver before responding to this change. What is the >>>> benefit of powering down / up (or clock off / on) the thermal sensor when >>>> reading the temperature ? >>>> >>>> I can understand for disable / enable but I don't get for the classic usage >>>> where a governor will be reading the temperature regularly. >>> >>> I tried to be as power saving as possible both at runtime and after the IP >>> is not used anymore as the HW manual doesn't mentioned anything about >>> accuracy or implications of disabling the IP clock at runtime. We use >>> similar approach (of disabling clocks at runtime) for other IPs in the >>> RZ/G3S SoC as well. >>> >>>> >>>> Would the IP need some cycles to capture the temperature accurately after the >>>> clock is enabled ? >>> >>> There is nothing about this mentioned about this in the HW manual of the >>> RZ/G3S SoC. The only points mentioned are as described in the driver code: >>> - wait at least 3us after each IIO channel read >>> - wait at least 30us after enabling the sensor >>> - wait at least 50us after setting OE bit in TSU_SM >>> >>> For this I chose to have it implemented as proposed. >> >> IMO, disabling/enabling the clock between two reads through the pm runtime may >> not be a good thing, especially if the system enters a thermal situation where >> it has to mitigate. If it's not 100% safe I can drop the runtime PM support. >> >> Without any testing capturing the temperatures and compare between the always-on >> and on/off, it is hard to say if it is true or not. Up to you to test that or >> not. If you think it is fine, then let's go with it. > > I tested it with and w/o the runtime PM and on/off support (so, everything > ON from the probe) and the reported temperature values were similar. > > Thank you, > Claudiu > >> >>> If any, the HW manual is available here >>> https://www.renesas.com/en/document/mah/rzg3s-group-users-manual-hardware?r=25458591 >>> (an archive is here; the manual is in Deliverables/r01uh1014ej0110-rzg3s.pdf) >>> >>> Thank you for your review, >>> Claudiu >>> >>>> >>>>> Add thermal_of_zone_register()/thermal_of_zone_unregister(). These will >>>>> be used in the upcomming RZ/G3S thermal driver. >>>>> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Claudiu Beznea >>> >> >