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From: Dmitry Krivoschekov <dmitry.krivoschekov@gmail.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-pm@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: Alternative Concept
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:25:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45FDA040.4020502@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703161103.12333.david-b@pacbell.net>

David Brownell wrote:
> On Friday 16 March 2007 6:06 am, Dmitry Krivoschekov wrote:
>
>> 	 I surprised you didn't comment
>> on original Matthew's post since it contains so many points to discuss.
>
> As a direction, it sounded better than many notions I've seen here.
>
> But there was a certain lack of ... detail ... making discussion
> impractical, except as speculation.
I believe  details  was intentionally omitted to receive some feedback
regarding
concept basics only, this may help to adjust (or change) implementation
details
from the beginning.

But ok, as you aren't arguing against those basics and intentions then
seems you
agree to them.

For me, there is a point that seems debatable already at the starting stage:

> The goal of this parameter framework is to expose the resources in  a  
> way that allows other s/w (governors, policy mangers, etc) to control  
> the resources while keeping the system operational.  One of the main  
> requirements in our thinking is that we want this layer to represent  
> the h/w and not include policy or decision making.  Meaning the 
> software using the parameter framework would be responsible for  
> deciding the appropriate value for the parameters.   


Sometimes it's quite reasonable to make decisions (or policy)
at the low level, without exposing events to higher layers,
e.g. turning a clock off when reference counter gets zero, this is
what OMAP's clock framework currently does.


Thanks,
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-18 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24  1:23 [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3 Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-07  2:36 ` Alternative Concept [Was: Re: [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3] Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-07  3:15   ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-08  7:16   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-12 15:38     ` Mark Gross
2006-10-12 16:02       ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-16 21:56         ` Mark Gross
2006-10-17 21:40           ` Matthew Locke
2006-10-12 16:48       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-12 17:12         ` Vitaly Wool
2006-10-12 17:23           ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-09 18:21   ` Mark Gross
2006-10-26  3:06     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-12 22:43   ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-13 10:55     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-16 21:44       ` Mark Gross
2006-10-17  8:26         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-26  3:05     ` Dominik Brodowski
2007-03-13  0:57   ` Alternative Concept Matthew Locke
2007-03-13 11:08     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-13 20:34       ` Mark Gross
2007-03-14  2:30         ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-14 10:43           ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-14 17:19             ` David Brownell
2007-03-14 18:12               ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-14 18:45                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15  9:53               ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:04                 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-16  2:21                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-16  3:56                     ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-16  6:17                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-19  2:27                         ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-19  6:07                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-16 13:06                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-16 18:03                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-18 20:25                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov [this message]
2007-03-19  4:04                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-20  0:03                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20  8:07                               ` David Brownell
2007-03-20  9:45                                 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 10:30                                   ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 12:13                                     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-20 12:39                                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 13:44                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 21:03                                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 13:07                                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 13:52                                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 14:58                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 15:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 19:16                                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:45                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 22:04                                                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:06                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:29                                                     ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 15:36                                           ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 19:17                                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:17                                             ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 20:21                                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 19:58                                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-24  0:47                                     ` charging batteries from USB [was: Re: Alternative Concept] Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24  1:17                                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-24  1:48                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24  2:35                                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 10:20                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-24  8:36                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-14  3:19       ` Alternative Concept Dominik Brodowski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-14 22:08 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-14 23:23 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15  7:25   ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-15  8:14     ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-15 10:55       ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:46     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:33   ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:21 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 13:29 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 23:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 14:00 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 14:38 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 17:33 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-03-19 14:12 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-20  7:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 14:26   ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-20 15:08     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 17:04       ` David Brownell

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