From: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
<kernel@quicinc.com>, <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Prakash Viswalingam" <quic_prakashv@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] freezer,sched: Use saved_state to reduce some spurious wakeups
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 13:08:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c5b5a0b-6d78-878e-7e66-e08e83e6e1c8@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230907094651.GB16872@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 9/7/2023 2:46 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2023 at 08:59:03PM -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/4/2023 2:23 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 10:42:39AM -0700, Elliot Berman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Avoid the spurious wakeups by saving the state of TASK_FREEZABLE tasks.
>>>> If the task was running before entering TASK_FROZEN state
>>>> (__refrigerator()) or if the task received a wake up for the saved
>>>> state, then the task is woken on thaw. saved_state from PREEMPT_RT locks
>>>> can be re-used because freezer would not stomp on the rtlock wait flow:
>>>> TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT isn't considered freezable.
>>>
>>> You don't actually assert that anywhere I think, so the moment someone
>>> makes that happen you crash and burn.
>>>
>>
>> I can certainly add an assertion on the freezer side.
>
> I think the assertion we have in ttwu_state_match() might be sufficient.
>
That assertion checks that you only try to wake up with only
TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT and no other bits. I think it is probably good to also
have assertions that check that TASK_RTLOCK_WAIT and TASK_FROZEN are
exclusive bits and. I can add these assertions (a separate patch?), but
I think those checks would impact the hot path to do the extra tests.
>>> Also:
>>>
>>>> -#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
>>>> +#if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT) || IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FREEZER)
>>>
>>> That makes wakeup more horrible for everyone :/
>>
>> I don't think the hot wakeup path is significantly impacted because the
>> added checks come after the hot path is already not taken.
>
> Perhaps we should start off by doing the below, instead of making it
> more complicated instead. I suppose you're right about the overhead, but
> run a hackbench just to make sure or something.
>
I ran perf bench sched message -g 40 -l 40 with the v3 patch [1]. After 60
iterations each, I don't see a significant difference on my arm64 platform:
both samples ~normal and ~eq variance w/t-test p-value: 0.79.
We also ran typical high level benchmarks for our SoCs (antutu,
geekbench, et. al) and didn't see any regressions there.
[1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230908-avoid-spurious-freezer-wakeups-v3-1-d49821fda04d@quicinc.com/
Thanks,
Elliot
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-08 20:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-30 17:42 [PATCH v2] freezer,sched: Use saved_state to reduce some spurious wakeups Elliot Berman
2023-09-04 21:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-05 3:59 ` Elliot Berman
2023-09-07 9:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 20:08 ` Elliot Berman [this message]
2023-09-08 22:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 22:30 ` Elliot Berman
2023-09-08 22:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-08 23:17 ` Elliot Berman
2023-09-09 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
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