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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Cc: Kajetan Puchalski <kajetan.puchalski@arm.com>,
	rafael@kernel.org, daniel.lezcano@linaro.org,
	Dietmar.Eggemann@arm.com, dsmythies@telus.net,
	yu.chen.surf@gmail.com, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] cpuidle: teo: Introduce util-awareness
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 14:09:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cd905e8-594e-4858-89df-a501184ee521@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtB21aY9cgi5dSHB0jRp6pE85AfGcHrHjrcpMwi3fJL0FA@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/28/24 15:07, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 11:59, Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> On 5/28/24 10:29, Vincent Guittot wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'm quite late on this thread but this patchset creates a major
>>> regression for psci cpuidle driver when using the OSI mode (OS
>>> initiated mode).  In such a case, cpuidle driver takes care only of
>>> CPUs power state and the deeper C-states ,which includes cluster and
>>> other power domains, are handled with power domain framework. In such
>>> configuration ,cpuidle has only 2 c-states : WFI and cpu off states
>>> and others states that include the clusters, are managed by genpd and
>>> its governor.
>>>
>>> This patch selects cpuidle c-state N-1 as soon as the utilization is
>>> above CPU capacity / 64 which means at most a level of 16 on the big
>>> core but can be as low as 4 on little cores. These levels are very low
>>> and the main result is that as soon as there is very little activity
>>> on a CPU, cpuidle always selects WFI states whatever the estimated
>>> sleep duration and which prevents any deeper states. Another effect is
>>> that it also keeps the tick firing every 1ms in my case.
>>
>> Thanks for reporting this.
>> Could you add what regression it's causing, please?
>> Performance or higher power?
> 
> It's not a perf but rather a power regression. I don't have a power
> counter so it's difficult to give figures but I found it while running
> a unitary test below on my rb5:
> run 500us every 19457ms on medium core (uclamp_min: 600).

Is that supposed to say 19.457ms?
(Because below you say idle time is >18ms and total test time 5sec)
Is the utilisation more like 1/20000 or 1/20?
In any case what you describe is probably an issue, I'll try to reproduce.
Note also my findings here:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/0ce2d536-1125-4df8-9a5b-0d5e389cd8af@arm.com/

Kind Regards,
Christian


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-05 14:51 [PATCH v6 0/2] cpuidle: teo: Introduce util-awareness Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-05 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] cpuidle: teo: Optionally skip polling states in teo_find_shallower_state() Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-05 14:51 ` [PATCH v6 2/2] cpuidle: teo: Introduce util-awareness Kajetan Puchalski
2023-01-05 15:07   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-01-05 15:20     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-01-05 15:34     ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-05 17:11       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-07-11 17:58   ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-17 13:47     ` Lukasz Luba
2023-07-17 18:21       ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-18 10:23         ` Lukasz Luba
2023-07-18 12:45           ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-18 12:02     ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-07-18 13:24       ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-19 15:07         ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-09-17  1:05         ` Qais Yousef
2023-09-18 11:41           ` Kajetan Puchalski
2023-09-19  0:04             ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-28  9:29           ` Vincent Guittot
2024-05-28  9:59             ` Lukasz Luba
2024-05-28 14:07               ` Vincent Guittot
2024-05-29 13:09                 ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2024-05-31  8:57                   ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-12  7:25                 ` Lukasz Luba
2024-06-12  9:04                   ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-12  9:17                     ` Lukasz Luba
2024-06-17  8:52                       ` Vincent Guittot
2024-06-19 12:20                       ` Lukasz Luba
2024-05-28 10:35             ` Christian Loehle
2024-05-28 12:12             ` Kajetan Puchalski
2024-05-29 10:23               ` Qais Yousef
2024-05-29 10:19             ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-12  7:53               ` Lukasz Luba
2024-06-16 21:48                 ` Qais Yousef
2024-06-17  8:13                   ` Lukasz Luba
2023-01-12 19:22 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-01-13 15:21   ` Kajetan Puchalski

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