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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tj@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	sbw@mit.edu, amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	rjw@sisk.pl, wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:23:33 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BF982D.7090704@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50BF979A.50304@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Replaying what Tejun wrote:

Hello, Oleg.

> Replaying what Oleg wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sorry I don't understand the context and I can't find this thread
> anywhere, so I am not sure I understand...
> 

Weird, lkml cc is missing.  Srivatsa?

[Now fixed. This thread has lkml CC]

>> Replaying what Tejun wrote:
>> So, we basically need percpu_rwlock.  We already have percpu_rwsem.
> 
> Yes, and with -mm patches it becomes reader-friendly. In particular
> see http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm-commits&m=135240650828875
> 
>> Oleg, it seems
>> CPU hotplug needs big-reader rwlock, ideas on how to proceed?
>>
> 
> I am going to convert get_online_cpus() to use percpu_down_read(),
> this looks simple.
> 
> We already discussed this with Paul, see
> 
> 	http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=135248463226031
> 
> and the whole thread.
> 
> In short, all we need is percpu_down_write_recursive_readers() and
> afaics the only complication is lockdep, we need down_read_no_lockdep()
> which (like __up_read) doesn't do rwsem_acquire_read().
> 

So, it's a different thing.  There are two mechanism protecting
against cpu hotplug - get_online_cpus() and preempt_disable().  The
former can be used by ones which can sleep and need to protect against
the whole up/down process (DOWN_PREPARE and so on).  The latter
protects the last step and can be used when the caller can't sleep.
Replacing get_online_cpus() w/ percpu_rwsem is great but this thread
is about replacing preempt_disable with something finer grained and
less heavy on the writer side - IOW, percpu_rwlock as opposed to
percpu_rwsem, so, I think the end result would be that CPU hotplug
will be protected by percpu_rwsem for the whole part and by
percpu_rwlock for the last commit stage.

The problem seems that we don't have percpu_rwlock yet.  It shouldn't
be too difficult to implement, right?

Thanks.

-- tejun 


  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-05 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-05 18:42 [RFC PATCH v2 00/10][RESEND] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:47   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:51     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:53       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-12-05 18:56         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:59           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:14             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 16:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 18:48                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 19:17                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 21:01                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 19:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-06 19:36                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 22:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 17:33                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
     [not found]                     ` <20121207200014.GB13238@redhat.com>
2012-12-10 18:21                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 19:07                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 19:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-07 20:25                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 20:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:07   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:16     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "full" " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 19:01   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:31     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:57       ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-06  4:31         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] kvm, vmx: Add full atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 19:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:12     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
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     [not found]     ` <20121205164640.GA7382@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <20121205165356.GL3885@mtj.dyndns.org>
2012-12-05 18:32         ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat

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