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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	mingo@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, namhyung@kernel.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, tj@kernel.org, oleg@redhat.com,
	sbw@mit.edu, amit.kucheria@linaro.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	rjw@sisk.pl, wangyun@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com, nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "full" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:31:14 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50BF99FA.8060109@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121205184313.3750.17752.stgit@srivatsabhat.in.ibm.com>

Replaying what Tejun wrote:

On 12/06/2012 12:13 AM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> Some of the atomic hotplug readers cannot tolerate CPUs going offline while
> they are in their critical section. That is, they can't get away with just
> synchronizing with the updates to the cpu_online_mask; they really need to
> synchronize with the entire CPU tear-down sequence, because they are very
> much involved in the hotplug related code paths.
> 
> Such "full" atomic hotplug readers need a way to *actually* and *truly*
> prevent CPUs from going offline while they are active.
> 

I don't think this is a good idea.  You really should just need
get/put_online_cpus() and get/put_online_cpus_atomic().  The former
the same as they are.  The latter replacing what
preempt_disable/enable() was protecting.  Let's please not go
overboard unless we know they're necessary.  I strongly suspect that
breaking up reader side from preempt_disable and making writer side a
bit lighter should be enough.  Conceptually, it really should be a
simple conversion - convert preempt_disable/enable() pairs protecting
CPU on/offlining w/ get/put_cpu_online_atomic() and wrap the
stop_machine() section with the matching write lock.

Thanks.

-- tejun 

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-05 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-05 18:42 [RFC PATCH v2 00/10][RESEND] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "light" atomic readers to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:47   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:51     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:53       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:56         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:59           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:14             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 16:18               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 18:48                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 19:17                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 21:01                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-06 19:28                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-06 19:36                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-06 22:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 17:33                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
     [not found]                     ` <20121207200014.GB13238@redhat.com>
2012-12-10 18:21                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-10 19:07                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-12-07 19:56                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-07 20:25                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-07 20:59                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:07   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:16     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs for "full" " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 19:01   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-12-05 20:31     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 20:57       ` Tejun Heo
2012-12-06  4:31         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] sched, cpu hotplug: Use stable online cpus in try_to_wake_up() & select_task_rq() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] kick_process(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of target CPU properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] yield_to(), cpu-hotplug: Prevent offlining of other CPUs properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] kvm, vmx: Add full atomic synchronization with CPU Hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 18:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-12-05 19:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-12-05 19:12     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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